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whell 02-02-2017 06:44 PM

If Dems Had their own church...
 
...it would be called "Our Lady of Perpetual Outrage".

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/...t-donald-trump

It really is hard to keep track of all the crap that the left is pissed off about these days. Do you guys keep a list...or maybe a compendium?

If Democrats protest everything with hair-on-fire outrage, will anything end up sticking with the American public beyond their infinite indignity? If they cry wolf every 12 hours, will the effect of their urgency wane over time? Instead of presenting an alternative vision, will they end up looking simply like a party of outrage?

"We need to be guided by a positive message about economic growth for everybody and a country that includes everybody," says Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut, who has expressed concern about the party's focus in reacting to Trump. "We can't respond to everything. You have to decide what to respond to based on what your vision for the country is."


As I've said before, its impossible to discern what the Dems actually are in favor of, or stand for. Hillary's message in the last election amounted to:

- Don't vote for the other guy 'cuz he's scary, and;
- .....?

Problem is, I don't think most Dems are as hard core lefty as their leadership, so coming up with a message that resonates with the average American might be pretty tough for them. So griping may be all they have left....

Yet given that Trump's approval rating is hovering between a respectable 45 and 49 percent depending on the poll, the fury emanating out of Washington and other major American cities is likely disproportional to the country at large. To some Democrats, this is a flashing alarm that incessant full-throated opposition is counterproductive.

finnbow 02-02-2017 07:13 PM

Though full-throated opposition may indeed by counterproductive, I personally can't imagine being willing to give der Trumpenfuhrer a pass, at least until he ditches Bannon and the whole White Nationalist shtick. For the moment, I'll roughly plagiarize Rick Perry, Trump's own Energy Secretary, and call Trump a cancer on our democracy.

ZeroJunk 02-02-2017 07:22 PM

Actually, Democrats are the cancer. And, the country is slowly but surely becoming immune to them.

finnbow 02-02-2017 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 346402)
Actually, Democrats are the cancer. And, the country is slowly but surely becoming immune to them.

Or so says our resident Fascist.

Pio1980 02-02-2017 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 346402)
Actually, Democrats are the cancer. And, the country is slowly but surely becoming immune to them.

Right.
And your pussy grabbing standard bearer speaks for your standards and judgement, if not your character.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.vanit...oy-profile/amp

Rajoo 02-02-2017 08:07 PM

Trump's payback to Russia has already started.

finnbow 02-02-2017 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 346405)
Right.
And your pussy grabbing standard bearer speaks for your standards and judgement, if not your character.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.vanit...oy-profile/amp

Trump struck me as adolescent, hilariously ostentatious, arbitrary, unkind, profane, dishonest, loudly opinionated, and consistently wrong. He remains the most vain man I have ever met. And he was trying to make a good impression.

No wonder ZeroJunk likes him. Two peas in a pod.

bobabode 02-02-2017 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 346398)
...it would be called "Our Lady of Perpetual Outrage".

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/...t-donald-trump

It really is hard to keep track of all the crap that the left is pissed off about these days. Do you guys keep a list...or maybe a compendium?

If Democrats protest everything with hair-on-fire outrage, will anything end up sticking with the American public beyond their infinite indignity? If they cry wolf every 12 hours, will the effect of their urgency wane over time? Instead of presenting an alternative vision, will they end up looking simply like a party of outrage?

"We need to be guided by a positive message about economic growth for everybody and a country that includes everybody," says Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut, who has expressed concern about the party's focus in reacting to Trump. "We can't respond to everything. You have to decide what to respond to based on what your vision for the country is."


As I've said before, its impossible to discern what the Dems actually are in favor of, or stand for. Hillary's message in the last election amounted to:

- Don't vote for the other guy 'cuz he's scary, and;
- .....?

Problem is, I don't think most Dems are as hard core lefty as their leadership, so coming up with a message that resonates with the average American might be pretty tough for them. So griping may be all they have left....

Yet given that Trump's approval rating is hovering between a respectable 45 and 49 percent depending on the poll, the fury emanating out of Washington and other major American cities is likely disproportional to the country at large. To some Democrats, this is a flashing alarm that incessant full-throated opposition is counterproductive.

Speaking of smarmy and lame...thanks for showing your small minded pettiness, Mike. You folks on the right better get used to seeing people peacefully marching in the streets like they did the day after der Trumpenfurher's feeble inaugurination. The way your boy's Trump and Bannon are going, it's only going to get worse from here on out. :cool: ;)

d-ray657 02-02-2017 08:19 PM

Now we know what story the EIB network is pushing lately . . . or is it Breitbart?

finnbow 02-02-2017 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 346402)
Actually, Democrats are the cancer. And, the country is slowly but surely becoming immune to them.

In some instances, cancer can be cured. However, stupidity like yours can't. :cool:

ZeroJunk 02-02-2017 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 346405)
Right.
And your pussy grabbing standard bearer speaks for your standards and judgement, if not your character.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.vanit...oy-profile/amp

Just look at the map. Other than the inbred bunch it the big cities it is not your color.

Pio1980 02-02-2017 09:15 PM

I did my homework, and knew exactly who and what this insufferable asshole was when I cast my vote. Either you didn't or didn't care that he would be incompetent and grossly unqualified, just as long as whatever political agenda you defend overrode common sense and the welfare of the Nation.

bobabode 02-02-2017 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 346413)
Just look at the map. Other than the inbred bunch it the big cities it is not your color.

Huh? :confused: Can you translate that? I don't speak goober.

donquixote99 02-02-2017 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 346413)
Just look at the map. Other than the inbred bunch it the big cities it is not your color.

That's exactly as racist as the stereotypes about hillbillies and incest.

Tom Joad 02-02-2017 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 346414)
I did my homework, and knew exactly who and what this insufferable asshole was when I cast my vote. Either you didn't or didn't care that he would be incompetent and grossly unqualified, just as long as whatever political agenda you defend overrode common sense and the welfare of the Nation.

No you didn't. If you would have done your homework you would have voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary instead of that insufferable lying corporate bitch hag Hillary.

Tom Joad 02-02-2017 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 346398)
Problem is, I don't think most Dems are as hard core lefty as their leadership,

There is nothing "lefty" about the Democratic leadership.

The only thing they are hard core about is sucking the dicks of their big corporate donors.

Pio1980 02-03-2017 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 346418)
No you didn't. If you would have done your homework you would have voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary instead of that insufferable lying corporate bitch hag Hillary.

You know better than that, we had this discussion. I liked Bernie and preferred him ethically but thought him less than firmly grounded with some of his proposals and unelectable as a self professed soshulist. He was to me much less a dingbat than the Green or Libertarian candidates, Hillz was the competent default of the group and far less a threat to Progressives than the lyin' king.

BlueStreak 02-03-2017 12:57 AM

Fuck church.

Dondilion 02-03-2017 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 346417)
That's exactly as racist as the stereotypes about hillbillies and incest.

True..

Dondilion 02-03-2017 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 346424)
Fuck church.

Could you expand, explain.

barbara 02-03-2017 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 346418)
No you didn't. If you would have done your homework you would have voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary instead of that insufferable lying corporate bitch hag Hillary.



You don't like Hilary because of her corporate ties yet you idolize Trump....... What a hypocrite you are.

Dondilion 02-03-2017 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 346398)
...it would be called "Our Lady of Perpetual Outrage".

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/...t-donald-trump

It really is hard to keep track of all the crap that the left is pissed off about these days. Do you guys keep a list...or maybe a compendium?

If Democrats protest everything with hair-on-fire outrage, will anything end up sticking with the American public beyond their infinite indignity? If they cry wolf every 12 hours, will the effect of their urgency wane over time? Instead of presenting an alternative vision, will they end up looking simply like a party of outrage?

"We need to be guided by a positive message about economic growth for everybody and a country that includes everybody," says Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut, who has expressed concern about the party's focus in reacting to Trump. "We can't respond to everything. You have to decide what to respond to based on what your vision for the country is."


As I've said before, its impossible to discern what the Dems actually are in favor of, or stand for. Hillary's message in the last election amounted to:

- Don't vote for the other guy 'cuz he's scary, and;
- .....?

Problem is, I don't think most Dems are as hard core lefty as their leadership, so coming up with a message that resonates with the average American might be pretty tough for them. So griping may be all they have left....

Yet given that Trump's approval rating is hovering between a respectable 45 and 49 percent depending on the poll, the fury emanating out of Washington and other major American cities is likely disproportional to the country at large. To some Democrats, this is a flashing alarm that incessant full-throated opposition is counterproductive.

The Democrats response to Trump is heavily infused by George Soros fronts and therefore will be characterized by "mass outrage" in the large urban streets.

This will only reinforce the hinterland's disdain and will secure Trump's base.

d-ray657 02-03-2017 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 346418)
No you didn't. If you would have done your homework you would have voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary instead of that insufferable lying corporate bitch hag Hillary.

TJ showing his feminist credentials again.:rolleyes:

ZeroJunk 02-03-2017 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 346417)
That's exactly as racist as the stereotypes about hillbillies and incest.

That's right. Racist, racist, racist, racist ,


If the left actually had an argument rather than burning shit, name calling, and the nonsensical blather from some idiot entertainers they might have a chance.

If they continue on the path they are on they will be a foot note in history.

Pio1980 02-03-2017 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 346448)
That's right. Racist, racist, racist, racist ,


If the left actually had an argument rather than burning shit, name calling, and the nonsensical blather from some idiot entertainers they might have a chance.

If they continue on the path they are on they will be a foot note in history.

I know you are smarter than this, why are you making yourself the fool?
What exactly is the position you support?

Pio1980 02-03-2017 10:09 AM

One of the reasons I joined PC was to understand the Conservative point of view from an interactive experience. I was hoping for intelligent insight away from partisan cliches and talking points, with factual support.
Some members have been consistently constructive, others tend to troll or just vent in response. I'm not interested in going personal or relayed talking points. If there's a valid point to be made, make it, and support it with facts from a reliable source when possible.

ZeroJunk 02-03-2017 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 346457)
I know you are be smarter than this, why are you making yourself the fool?
What exactly is the position you support?

Exactly. Call me a name.

Worked out really well in the last eight years didn't it.

Pio1980 02-03-2017 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 346469)
Exactly. Call me a name.

Worked out really well in the last eight years didn't it.

Maybe you aren't that smart, I dunno.
Never mind.

ZeroJunk 02-03-2017 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 346470)
Maybe you aren't that smart, I dunno.
Never mind.

That's right. Just call me dumb. That policy works too.

donquixote99 02-03-2017 12:02 PM

When you call folks 'inbred,' Zero, it's just an example of the tendency of folks* to see
'those people' (whoever 'those people' are to them) as stupid, inferior in 'blood,' and morally/sexually unclean.


* The more unthinking folks, that is. Don't want to be called racist and dumb? Doing what you're doing gets you what you're getting.

Pio1980 02-03-2017 12:31 PM

Not my point, but play the victim and take it as you will.

Pio1980 02-03-2017 12:44 PM

Otherwise, never mind.

ZeroJunk 02-03-2017 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 346473)
When you call folks 'inbred,' Zero, it's just an example of the tendency of folks* to see
'those people' (whoever 'those people' are to them) as stupid, inferior in 'blood,' and morally/sexually unclean.


* The more unthinking folks, that is. Don't want to be called racist and dumb? Doing what you're doing gets you what you're getting.

I don't care what people call me. Dumb , stupid, or inbred are not the proper terminology because it can apply to anybody.

You have to narrow it down to racist, misogynist, homophobic, Islamophobic , anti transgender, anti Latino, hate children, hate old people......

That was the Democrat strategy in the election and apparently it has not changed.

MrPots 02-03-2017 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 346398)
...it would be called "Our Lady of Perpetual Outrage".

[

I'm sorry, after listening to republicans scream in outrage over every Obama utterance for the last eight years, you absolutely don't get to say one fucking word.

ZeroJunk 02-03-2017 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 346488)
I'm sorry, after listening to republicans scream in outrage over every Obama utterance for the last eight years, you absolutely don't get to say one fucking word.

Are you out of your mind. If Obama had gotten even a fraction of the criticism Trump has from the media the left would have been screaming racism to Holy Hell.

CarlV 02-03-2017 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 346493)
Are you out of your mind. If Obama had gotten even a fraction of the criticism Trump has from the media the left would have been screaming racism to Holy Hell.

But he did, and it was from Trump and his dumbass birther scam. Then there are the insults to his wife and children, nobody had gone that low before the Republicans. Then there is Congress fighting everything because the last thing we can have, and never again in the USA, is a brown POTUS. Then there is also being called a liar without cause while addressing Congress.

Trump has earned everything he is receiving.
If he was truthful to the people and disclosed what every other candidate has he most likely wouldn't have any issues. But him and his people have not been honest to we citizens and everything personal covered up. Quite different.


Carl

Rajoo 02-03-2017 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlV (Post 346499)
But he did, and it was from Trump and his dumbass birther scam. Then there are the insults to his wife and children, nobody had gone that low before the Republicans. Then there is Congress fighting everything because the last thing we can have, and never again in the USA, is a brown POTUS. Then there is also being called a liar without cause while addressing Congress.

Trump has earned everything he is receiving.
If he was truthful to the people and disclosed what every other candidate has he most likely wouldn't have any issues. But him and his people have not been honest to we citizens and everything personal covered up. Quite different.



Carl

Very well put and agree wholeheartedly.
I initially took the position of wait and see, but right off the bat from the inauguration crowds to alternative facts, he deserves everything thrown at him.

CarlV 02-03-2017 07:44 PM

As a people we are forgiving to a fault if one is honest, Trump should know this. As far as hiding his medical and financial, there has to be a reason for this cover up.


Carl

ZeroJunk 02-03-2017 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlV (Post 346499)
But he did, and it was from Trump and his dumbass birther scam. Then there are the insults to his wife and children, nobody had gone that low before the Republicans. Then there is Congress fighting everything because the last thing we can have, and never again in the USA, is a brown POTUS. Then there is also being called a liar without cause while addressing Congress.

Trump has earned everything he is receiving.
If he was truthful to the people and disclosed what every other candidate has he most likely wouldn't have any issues. But him and his people have not been honest to we citizens and everything personal covered up. Quite different.


Carl

You do understand the difference between Donald Trump and the entire entertainment, academia, and mainstream media do you not ?

Pio1980 02-03-2017 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 346509)
You do understand the difference between Donald Trump and the entire entertainment, academia, and mainstream media do you not ?

That he is a proven untrustworthy narcissistic selfserving sociopathic bullshitting prolific liar, yes.


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