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finnbow 01-23-2017 08:29 PM

Trump Proclaims Inauguration Day is "National Day of Patriotic Devotion"
 
You can't make this $hit up.

“Now, therefore, I, Donald J. Trump, president of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim Jan. 20, 2017, as National Day of Patriotic Devotion, in order to strengthen our bonds to each other and to our country — and to renew the duties of government to the people.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...otic-devotion/

He's giving Kim Jong-un a run for his money.

CarlV 01-23-2017 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 345150)
You can't make this $hit up.



He's giving Kim Jong-un a run for his money.

No you can't and yes he is. :p
It will be nice if he ever decides to act like a real President. I guess maybe this is what his TV show was like? I could never stomach watching a full episode of that nonsense, watching it for 10 minutes gave me my fill.


Carl

bobabode 01-23-2017 09:51 PM

This is getting bizarre. I remember watching Nixon disintegrating mentally before our very eyes when I lived in the D.C. area. It was clear by early '73 that he was losing his mind. This guy isn't even in office a week and he's already cracking up. That speech at Langley was pretty deranged. I hope the people around him have a plan in place to keep him from nuking Tehran, Karachi or Los Angeles for that matter.

bobabode 01-24-2017 12:30 AM

'Patriotic Devotion' sounds like something Pence and his merry band of bible thumping Domionists cooked up. Reminds me of that saying about fascism coming to America wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

donquixote99 01-24-2017 07:24 AM

National Day of Patriotic Devotion (to our Dear Leader). Last part implied....

In practice, National Day to Wear Your Patriotism on Your Sleeve (or else!)

whell 01-24-2017 08:25 AM

https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...iotic-devotion

Here's the whole statement, in context.

donquixote99 01-24-2017 08:31 AM

Hmmm...just proclaims Jan 20 2017 as NDPD, not every Jan 20 going forward. So no plans for a big parade with tanks and missiles next year? Good.

whell 01-24-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 345172)
Hmmm...just proclaims Jan 20 2017 as NDPD, not every Jan 20 going forward. So no plans for a big parade with tanks and missiles next year? Good.

Yeah, I know. Sorry to take some of the wind out of Finn's propensity to hyperventilate about all things Trump. :rolleyes:

MrPots 01-24-2017 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 345166)
National Day of Patriotic Devotion (to our Dear Leader). Last part implied....

In practice, National Day to Wear Your Patriotism on Your Sleeve (or else!)

That'll never happen.

finnbow 01-24-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345173)
Yeah, I know. Sorry to take some of the wind out of Finn's propensity to hyperventilate about all things Trump. :rolleyes:

It's funny how you (and your Trumpenfuhrer) somehow consider the use of his own words as unfair or hyperventilating. :confused:

whell 01-24-2017 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 345183)
It's funny how you (and your Trumpenfuhrer) somehow consider the use of his own words as unfair or hyperventilating. :confused:

I don't. You do. That's the difference.

Of course, if tomorrow Trump somehow found a way to bring about world peace, cure cancer, and found a way for farts not to smell, you'd find a way to be critical of it and call he and his administration Nazis to boot. That's to your credit, since you've been a hallmark of consistency for months now....

....while also sounding like little more than a broken record. :rolleyes:

bobabode 01-24-2017 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345194)
I don't. You do. That's the difference.

Of course, if tomorrow Trump somehow found a way to bring about world peace, cure cancer, and found a way for farts not to smell, you'd find a way to be critical of it and call he and his administration Nazis to boot. That's to your credit, since you've been a hallmark of consistency for months now....

....while also sounding like little more than a broken record. :rolleyes:

Channeling you inner 'Donald', Mike?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVWRetR4jg

whell 01-24-2017 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 345196)
Channeling you inner 'Donald', Mike?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVWRetR4jg

Still pining for Hillary, Bob? :rolleyes:

bobabode 01-24-2017 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345228)
Still pining for Hillary, Bob? :rolleyes:


Me and 750,000 of my best friends, Sparky. :D

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...fknNTYRKTybckC
Million Man March

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...8lIxWgYcnUz_su
LA Women's March
I might even have to take up knitting.

finnbow 01-24-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345194)
I don't. You do. That's the difference.

Of course, if tomorrow Trump somehow found a way to bring about world peace, cure cancer, and found a way for farts not to smell, you'd find a way to be critical of it and call he and his administration Nazis to boot. That's to your credit, since you've been a hallmark of consistency for months now....

....while also sounding like little more than a broken record. :rolleyes:

I would characterize my view of Trump as bemused disgust and yours as unalloyed adoration and devotion. It's fun watching whether any of the idiotic, juvenile shit he does will have any impact on the unrequited love you have for your Trumpenfuhrer.

“Trump has been resentful, even furious, at what he views as the media’s failure to reflect the magnitude of his achievements, and he feels demoralized that the public’s perception of his presidency so far does not necessarily align with his own sense of accomplishment." To give himself the recognition that he feels others are not, Trump officially declared his own Inauguration Day as “A National Day of Patriotic Devotion.” A proclamation that was signed by the president and entered into the Federal Register reads: “A new national pride stirs the American soul and inspires the American heart.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...69b432bc7e07f/

whell 01-24-2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 345237)
I would characterize my view of Trump as bemused disgust and yours us unalloyed adoration and devotion. It's fun watching whether any of the idiotic, juvenile shit he does will have any impact on the unrequited love you have for your Trumpenfuhrer.

Setting aside that the highlighted phrase makes no sense, this entire thread is a puff of hot air spun up by you and WaPo to create an impression that is based on a falsehood....so it is consistent with most of your posts.

You have no idea what I think of Trump. I've never posted it here. My posts have been exclusively comments on forum members, and the media's, fawning devotion to the Dem party line. So, congrats again for reinforcing how clueless you've been.

Speaking of idiotic and juvenile, I love this:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ir_mouths.html

...self - loathing and identity politics on full display. This is who the Dems think might help fix the mess they're in? Good luck.

donquixote99 01-24-2017 01:16 PM

~I maintain tactical deniability on my personal Trump approval, I just think anyone who says a word against him is a moron.~

bobabode 01-24-2017 01:17 PM

Why is it that I can easily imagine Mike stabbing at his keyboard and stamping his feet at the sheer gall and effrontery of people not groveling at the feet of the Orangefaced Shitgibbon that his party elected? :rolleyes:

finnbow 01-24-2017 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345240)
Setting aside that the highlighted phrase makes no sense, this entire thread is a puff of hot air spun up by you and WaPo to create an impression that is based on a falsehood....

What falsehood? The Post reported his Federal Register notice, reportedly done to compensate for the fact that “Trump has been resentful, even furious, at what he views as the media’s failure to reflect the magnitude of his achievements, and he feels demoralized that the public’s perception of his presidency so far does not necessarily align with his own sense of accomplishment." These emotions/feelings were amplified yesterday in Sean Spicer's press conference when he went on for nearly 10 minutes about how demoralized Trump was that not everybody is in his thrall.

Sorry if his own words demonstrate to anyone with even a hint of skepticism that your Trumpenfuhrer is an insecure, narcissistic, vain-glorious manchild. Amazingly, it doesn't demonstrate that to you.

whell 01-24-2017 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 345242)
~I maintain tactical deniability on my personal Trump approval, I just think anyone who says a word against him is a moron.~

Wrong again, but you're used that. :rolleyes:

I voted for the guy. I'm just not reflexive in my criticism. There's not doubt the guy's not perfect. Also, my comments of late HAVE exclusively been focused on that reflexive criticism. Its so out of proportion.

whell 01-24-2017 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 345245)
What falsehood? The Post reported his Federal Register notice, reportedly done to compensate for the fact that “Trump has been resentful, even furious, at what he views as the media’s failure to reflect the magnitude of his achievements, and he feels demoralized that the public’s perception of his presidency so far does not necessarily align with his own sense of accomplishment." These emotions/feelings were amplified yesterday in Sean Spicer's press conference when he went on for nearly 10 minutes about how demoralized Trump was that not everybody is in his thrall.

Sorry if his own words demonstrate to anyone with even a hint of skepticism that your Trumpenfuhrer is an insecure, narcissistic, vain-glorious manchild. Amazingly, it doesn't demonstrate that to you.

There are the falsehoods. But I'm sure it makes you feel better to believe that tripe. Past presidents have made similar proclamations. Here's Obama's:

https://web.archive.org/web/20091101...nciliation2009

Here's an excerpt from Obama's:

We are in the midst of a season of trial. Our Nation is being tested, and our people know great uncertainty. Yet the story of America is one of renewal in the face of adversity, reconciliation in a time of discord, and we know that there is a purpose for everything under heaven
.

On this Inauguration Day, we are reminded that we are heirs to over two centuries of American democracy, and that this legacy is not simply a birthright -- it is a glorious burden. Now it falls to us to come together as a people to carry it forward once more.

Here's an excerpt from Trump's:

Freedom is the birthright of all Americans, and to preserve that freedom we must maintain faith in our sacred values and heritage.

Our Constitution is written on parchment, but it lives in the hearts of the American people. There is no freedom where the people do not believe in it; no law where the people do not follow it; and no peace where the people do not pray for it.

There are no greater people than the American citizenry, and as long as we believe in ourselves, and our country, there is nothing we cannot accomplish
.

I don't see anything necessarily sinister in either the words used by either President, or either President's release of a proclamation on their first day in office. But apparently you see something sinister in Trump's because....well....Trump did it. Horrors!

You flippin' tool.

whell 01-24-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 345243)
Why is it that I can easily imagine Mike stabbing at his keyboard and stamping his feet at the sheer gall and effrontery of people not groveling at the feet of the Orangefaced Shitgibbon that his party elected? :rolleyes:

Likely because you're a single minded tool who thinks that everyone who disagrees with you must therefore be categorized, criticized, minimized and dismissed (a variant of the time-honored "shoot the messenger" strategy)....mostly because you don't appear to have the foggiest notion of how to debate such folks without using those tactics....

...or so it seems.

finnbow 01-24-2017 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345265)
There are the falsehoods. But I'm sure it makes you feel better to believe that tripe. Past presidents have made similar proclamations. Here's Obama's:...

If you can't discern the difference in tone and content of these two releases, it just further demonstrates the depth of your "patriotic devotion" to your vainglorious Trumpenfuhrer.

whell 01-24-2017 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 345272)
If you can't discern the difference in tone and content of these two releases, it just further demonstrates the depth of your "patriotic devotion" to your vainglorious Trumpenfuhrer.

Tone? Tone?!? That's hilarious. :rolleyes:

finnbow 01-24-2017 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345299)
Tone? Tone?!? That's hilarious. :rolleyes:

It's a safe bet then that you also didn't find the following statement in his inaugural address a bit disingenuous:

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

BlueStreak 01-25-2017 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 345158)
This is getting bizarre. I remember watching Nixon disintegrating mentally before our very eyes when I lived in the D.C. area. It was clear by early '73 that he was losing his mind. This guy isn't even in office a week and he's already cracking up. That speech at Langley was pretty deranged. I hope the people around him have a plan in place to keep him from nuking Tehran, Karachi or Los Angeles for that matter.

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 345161)
'Patriotic Devotion' sounds like something Pence and his merry band of bible thumping Domionists cooked up. Reminds me of that saying about fascism coming to America wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

I read something earlier about a theory in which, somewhere down the line, the GOP moves to sorta depose Trump through impeachment, making Pence our de facto president. Interesting thought.

BlueStreak 01-25-2017 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 345308)
It's a safe bet then that you also didn't find the following statement in his inaugural address a bit disingenuous:

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

Patriotism is fine. What his majesty is proffering isn't patriotism, it's nationalism.

There is a difference.

Oerets 01-25-2017 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 345370)
I read something earlier about a theory in which, somewhere down the line, the GOP moves to sorta depose Trump through impeachment, making Pence our de facto president. Interesting thought.

No until they get their agenda rammed thru.

What is making me worried about the new guy, is what happens once the day today work of running the country hits him. Right now he is in the frenzy and spotlight of issuing executive actions. Loves the attention and every day something huge to issue. Fast and furious, overwhelming any opposition with so many fronts to fight.
But what is going to happen when it slows down and the adulation and attention is less? His ego needs the constant attention to be happy.


Barney

finnbow 01-25-2017 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 345371)
Patriotism is fine. What his majesty is proffering isn't patriotism, it's nationalism.

There is a difference.

I understand it as throwing a bone to the rubes in the following way "You folks are patriotic, so you can't be racist. The left, OTOH, doesn't wrap itself in the flag like us and is therefore racist."

whell 01-25-2017 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 345308)
It's a safe bet then that you also didn't find the following statement in his inaugural address a bit disingenuous:

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

Doesn't really matter what I thought about it, does it? Obviously you've seen fit to let your imagination run wild with all manner of possibilities.

whell 01-25-2017 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 345376)
I understand it as throwing a bone to the rubes in the following way "You folks are patriotic, so you can't be racist. The left, OTOH, doesn't wrap itself in the flag like us and is therefore racist."

No, the left just flounders in identity politics, self-loathing (with just the right amount of race baiting stirred in), while excoriating the rest of the world for not doing the same. I choose not to participate in that mess.

On the other had, if we did the opposite of what the left likes to do, and focus on those things that make us more alike than different, I suspect we'd find less division far more cooperation and success.

But since Trump said it, it must be racist. :rolleyes:

whell 01-25-2017 09:56 AM

Finn: Even if you don't get it - in fact you stubbornly and steadfastly refuse to get it - some people do.

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...upporters.html

“We may come from different cultures and may disagree on certain issues, but if everyone would share their smile and kindness like your beautiful smile, our country will come together as one people. Not race. Not gender. Just American. God Bless!"

finnbow 01-25-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345407)
Finn: Even if you don't get it - in fact you stubbornly and steadfastly refuse to get it - some people do.

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...upporters.html

“We may come from different cultures and may disagree on certain issues, but if everyone would share their smile and kindness like your beautiful smile, our country will come together as one people. Not race. Not gender. Just American. God Bless!"

I guess the irony of a candidate whose campaign had racism and xenophobia as its central focus now saying that patriotism will alleviate prejudice is completely lost on you (just as I predicted).

Your vignette above, as nice as it is, does nothing to diminish the racist, xenophobic nature of Trump's campaign.

merrylander 01-25-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345380)
No, the left just flounders in identity politics, self-loathing (with just the right amount of race baiting stirred in), while excoriating the rest of the world for not doing the same. I choose not to participate in that mess.

On the other had, if we did the opposite of what the left likes to do, and focus on those things that make us more alike than different, I suspect we'd find less division far more cooperation and success.

But since Trump said it, it must be racist. :rolleyes:

What fucking planet do you live on Mike? I never heard so many alternate facts in my life.

whell 01-25-2017 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 345451)
What fucking planet do you live on Mike? I never heard so many alternate facts in my life.

Reality is worse than "alternate facts" when you have miserable, self loathing and patronizing folks like this vying to lead your favorite party:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ir_mouths.html

bobabode 01-25-2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345482)
Reality is worse than "alternate facts" when you have miserable, self loathing and patronizing folks like this vying to lead your favorite party:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ir_mouths.html

You've been marinating/stewing on that op-ed for days, Mike. Time to take a break for your own sanity, bro. She wasn't telling you to shut up. She was telling white democrats to listen instead of running off at the mouth to people of color within our own party.

We're going with Tom Perez or Keith Ellison for DNC chair, both good men. Contrary to what you may have heard, the DNC chair isn't some Sith lord running things in the shadows or a kingmaker in a dark and smokey back room these days.

Just look at how effective that chinless wonder and weird anagram, Reince Priebus was. Nowadays, all he does is frantically run around behind Trump with a pooper scooper these days. ;)

whell 01-25-2017 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 345485)
We're going with Tom Perez or Keith Ellison for DNC chair, both good men.

Ellison's a racist. Perez is a party hack which makes him eminently qualified for the job.

bobabode 01-25-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 345487)
Ellison's a racist. Perez is a party hack which makes him eminently qualified for the job.

Sure, Mike. Suuuure. :rolleyes:

merrylander 01-26-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 345491)
Sure, Mike. Suuuure. :rolleyes:

You know Bob, from the gitgo Mike came in here with both guns blazing and he wonders why others here dismiss his rants.

whell 01-26-2017 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 345531)
You know Bob, from the gitgo Mike came in here with both guns blazing and he wonders why others here dismiss his rants.

Ah. So when one dares to disagree with someone on the left, its called "both guns blazing." LOL! Funny how you don't respond to the substance of my posts, you just accuse me of "ranting".

Pathetic.


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