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finnbow 12-05-2016 07:57 PM

DoD quashes study showing enormous waste ...
 
... to the tune of $125 billion.:eek:

The Pentagon has buried an internal study that exposed $125 billion in administrative waste in its business operations amid fears Congress would use the findings as an excuse to slash the defense budget, according to interviews and confidential memos obtained by The Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...aa5_story.html

donquixote99 12-05-2016 08:16 PM

Yes. It is the most bloated bureaucracy the world has ever seen.

Tom Joad 12-06-2016 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 341087)
... to the tune of $125 billion.:eek:

The Pentagon has buried an internal study that exposed $125 billion in administrative waste in its business operations amid fears Congress would use the findings as an excuse to slash the defense budget, according to interviews and confidential memos obtained by The Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...aa5_story.html

They must not have buried it very well if there's a thread on it in this forum.

Tom Joad 12-06-2016 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 341087)
[I]The Pentagon has buried an internal study that exposed $125 billion in administrative waste in its business operations

Whatever you got paid while working for them was a good chunk of that.

donquixote99 12-06-2016 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 341123)
They must not have buried it very well if there's a thread on it in this forum.


Indeed, who knows what masses of people will see it here.

This is not one of the platforms that matter. Search someplace that does, why don't you. Does Brietbart have the story?

Tom Joad 12-06-2016 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 341126)
Indeed, who knows what masses of people will see it here.

Untold millions no doubt.

finnbow 12-06-2016 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 341123)
They must not have buried it very well if there's a thread on it in this forum.

Read the article, dimwit.

Tom Joad 12-06-2016 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 341141)
Read the article, dimwit.

No.

I don't feel like reading it.


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MrPots 12-06-2016 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 341092)
Yes. It is the most bloated bureaucracy the world has ever seen.

I'd wager much of that 125 billion in "waste" is actually lobbying costs.

donquixote99 12-06-2016 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 341163)
I'd wager much of that 125 billion in "waste" is actually lobbying costs.

No, that would be other waste, money spent by contractors, and so comes from procurement dollars, and so is built into the costs of airplanes and ships and stuff. This particular 125 B. is exclusive of procurement spending--it's part of the Pentagon's own operating cost and overhead.

MrPots 12-06-2016 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 341165)
No, that would be other waste, money spent by contractors, and so comes from procurement dollars, and so is built into the costs of airplanes and ships and stuff. This particular 125 B. is exclusive of procurement spending--it's part of the Pentagon's own operating cost and overhead.

I see, thanks.

finnbow 12-06-2016 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 341165)
No, that would be other waste, money spent by contractors, and so comes from procurement dollars, and so is built into the costs of airplanes and ships and stuff. This particular 125 B. is exclusive of procurement spending--it's part of the Pentagon's own operating cost and overhead.

With a strong emphasis on the size of the Pentagon's support-service contractor workforce. From the article:

The data showed that the Defense Department was paying a staggering number of people — 1,014,000 contractors, civilians and uniformed personnel — to fill back-office jobs far from the front lines. That workforce supports 1.3 million troops on active duty, the fewest since 1940.

donquixote99 12-06-2016 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 341188)
With a strong emphasis on the size of the Pentagon's support-service contractor workforce. From the article:

The data showed that the Defense Department was paying a staggering number of people — 1,014,000 contractors, civilians and uniformed personnel — to fill back-office jobs far from the front lines. That workforce supports 1.3 million troops on active duty, the fewest since 1940.


Actually, the 1,014,000 supports 1,002,000 troops on active duty, excluding 298,000 active duty troops who are part of the support workforce.

The 1,014,000 workforce breaks down to the 298,000 military, 448,000 civilian workers, and 268,000 support contractor personnel.

If the number of $200,000 per worker that they give is correct, the whole budget for support and overhead at the Pentagon is some $202 billion a year. The $125 B. the report says can be saved, over five years, with reforms they identify, represents 25 B. a year, a saving of about 12.4% on an annual basis.

finnbow 12-06-2016 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 341191)
Actually, the 1,014,000 supports 1,002,000 troops on active duty, excluding 298,000 active duty troops who are part of the support workforce.

The 1,014,000 workforce breaks down to the 298,000 military, 448,000 civilian workers, and 268,000 support contractor personnel.

If the number of $200,000 per worker that they give is correct, the whole budget for support and overhead at the Pentagon is some $202 billion a year. The $125 B. the report says can be saved, over five years, with reforms they identify, represents 25 B. a year, a saving of about 12.4% on an annual basis.

Oops. Thanks. Sure is a lot of overhead, it seems.

donquixote99 12-06-2016 03:59 PM

An incredible lot.

Tom Joad 12-06-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 341194)
An incredible lot.

It takes a lot of overhead to cover those pallet loads of shrink wrapped $100 bills that went missing in Iraq.


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