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bobabode 12-04-2016 04:59 PM

Austria Rejects Far Right Trumpism
 
"BERLIN – The center-left candidate handily defeated his far-right challenger in Austria’s presidential election on Sunday, boosting the political establishment in Europe as it sought to contain the fallout of Donald Trump’s victory in the United States and thwart the spread of nationalism.
The far-right Freedom Party’s Norbert Hofer conceded defeat on his Facebook page less than 30 minutes after polls closed and following projections showing a surprisingly strong lead for Alexander Van der Bellen. The 72-year-old statesman and former Green Party politician was winning by 53.3 percent to 46.7 percent with nearly 100 percent of the votes counted.
The result was an unexpectedly clear victory for Austria’s beleaguered political establishment — one suggesting the aggressive tactics and Trump-style campaign deployed by the Austrian far-right may have hurt more than they helped.
Sunday’s election, in fact, was a rerun of one in May in which Hofer lost by 31,000 votes, a result he successfully contested. His defeat on Sunday by a far larger margin, observers said, may suggest European voters’ unease with the comparisons of their politicians to Trump. It also seemed to rob the momentum from far-right leaders in France and the Netherlands who have called Trump’s victory part of a new “world order” that they were hoping to join in elections next year." WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.caa593c4ecc9

Sehr gut.

finnbow 12-04-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 340954)
Sehr gut.

Bestimmt (certainly).

Tom Joad 12-04-2016 05:05 PM

Jesus Fucking Christ.

The corporate media can't even report the results of a European election without taking a cheap shot at Trump.

Trump is not "far right".

He's the most liberal Republican President since Eisenhower.

bobabode 12-04-2016 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 340956)
Bestimmt (certainly).

Weihnachten kam früh für das österreichische Volk. ;)

finnbow 12-04-2016 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 340958)
Weihnachten kam früh für das österreichische Volk. ;)

Nice folks and awesome country. Vienna is probably my favorite of the German-speaking cities (Munich's a close second) and the skiing, scenery and food in Tyrol is great.

bobabode 12-04-2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 340959)
Nice folks and awesome country. Vienna is probably my favorite of the German-speaking cities (Munich's a close second) and the skiing, scenery and food in Tyrol is great.

Pop's outfit, 10th AD/3rd Army ended their tour in the Werdenfelser Land. We have a photo of him up on the Zugspitz with his fellow soldiers drinking scnapps.

finnbow 12-04-2016 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 340960)
Pop's outfit, 10th AD/3rd Army ended their tour in the Werdenfelser Land. We have a photo of him up on the Zugspitz with his fellow soldiers drinking scnapps.

That must have been one hell of a respite after fighting their way across Europe - a very beautiful area. I had a number of projects in Garmisch and I'd often schedule my jobsite meetings so they'd end in time for a half day of skiing in the afternoon followed by a nice Weissbier at the Osterfeldkopf.

http://fotodesign-rr.de/media/bilder...1-11_15253.jpg

Tom Joad 12-04-2016 06:02 PM

Never been there.

But I've seen the movie.:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AePRD1Ud3Lw

HarmanKardon 12-05-2016 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340966)
Never been there.

But I've seen the movie.:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AePRD1Ud3Lw

"Never been there" is so typical of Americans...

Adolf Trump is not far right? Take some lessons in German history...!

HarmanKardon 12-05-2016 02:26 AM

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Austria is a beautiful country for sure, I went skiing in the Austrian Alps several times in the eighties.

Politically Austria has been partly very reactionary in the last decades so Hofer's knock out means a lot of us German neighbours.

One of the most perverted Austrians since the decline of the Barking Monster was Jörg Haider, see Wikipedia. This contemptuous Arschloch died on October 11th, 2008 in an accident in a village, driving drunk and much too fast. He got too far right...

merrylander 12-05-2016 05:32 AM

With any luck maybe all the rest of these far righties will meet a similar fate. So glad that Austria went center left.

HarmanKardon 12-05-2016 06:43 AM

Rob, I fear that the "European populism movement", as I call it, is something that can't be stopped anymore. Next issue is Italy, Renzi will resign today.

whell 12-05-2016 08:13 AM

The times they are a-changin':

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7456471.html

ZeroJunk 12-07-2016 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 340994)
With any luck maybe all the rest of these far righties will meet a similar fate. So glad that Austria went center left.

The unavoidable end will be that the people who fund the left, as in people who work and actually support themselves and their offspring as well as a handful of lefty voters, will just quit.

donquixote99 12-07-2016 09:14 PM

^^^ I suggest you quit right now with the Randian fantasy.

bobabode 12-07-2016 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 341321)
The unavoidable end will be that the people who fund the left, as in people who work and actually support themselves and their offspring as well as a handful of lefty voters, will just quit.

Dream on, pal. The democratic party just won the popular vote by 2% and demographics portend that us white folk are soon to be the minority. ;)

merrylander 12-08-2016 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 341321)
The unavoidable end will be that the people who fund the left, as in people who work and actually support themselves and their offspring as well as a handful of lefty voters, will just quit.

I bring more money into this country than I get out of it so I just have two words for that thought - get stuffed!

MrPots 12-08-2016 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 340990)
"Never been there" is so typical of Americans...

Adolf Trump is not far right? Take some lessons in German history...!

Americans don't do history, (or anything else deemed intellectual) they can't even remember their own.

MrPots 12-08-2016 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 341321)
The unavoidable end will be that the people who fund the left, as in people who work and actually support themselves and their offspring as well as a handful of lefty voters, will just quit.

America seems to be the only industrialized nation left where the people just don't give a flying fuck about each other to the point of violent hostility. "I got mine, fuck you" should be our national anthem.

MrPots 12-08-2016 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 341326)
Dream on, pal. The democratic party just won the popular vote by 2% and demographics portend that us white folk are soon to be the minority. ;)

Gerrymandering and absolute control of the electoral system will eliminate any disadvantages a minority white voting population may encounter.

Tom Joad 12-08-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 341005)
Rob, I fear that the "European populism movement", as I call it, is something that can't be stopped anymore. Next issue is Italy, Renzi will resign today.

I've been doing a little research and it appears that this wasn't the great rejection of the populism movement that it's being made out to be. True they pulled a couple of points lower this time around than they did a few months ago, but overall the trend seems to be going their way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Party_of_Austria

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In the 1999 legislative election the FPÖ won 26.9% of the vote, its best-ever result in a nationwide election,
So in 1999 27% was a record for this "FPO". But now they are getting mid to upper 40's. That's an improvement of about 20 percentage points. Sounds like the Barbarians are at the gates and the people inside are celebrating because the battering ram hasn't quite broken through just yet.


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