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Tom Joad 11-26-2016 03:50 PM

Clinton campaign to participate in the Wisconsin recount
 
plus Michigan and Pennsylvania if they happen.

All I can say is that if the Clinton campaign is going to be there, Trump better have some people there too to watch them because she will try to steal the election from him just like she stole the nomination from Bernie.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/664108...ylvania-happen

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"Because we had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology, we had not planned to exercise [the recount] option ourselves, but now that a recount has been initiated in Wisconsin, we intend to participate in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides," Elias wrote in a statement at Medium. "If [Green Party candidate] Jill Stein follows through as she has promised and pursues recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan, we will take the same approach in those states as well."

HarmanKardon 11-27-2016 12:06 PM

Is this recount issue something that the Trump dictatorship elect has to take serious?

I don't think so.

icenine 11-27-2016 12:41 PM

I want to know if they can find out how many mail in ballots were thrown out for "technical reasons" if that is indeed possible. Plus Trump being upset about a recount threatening his legitimacy is rich considering he used race to undermine Obama's presidency as springboard to his own.

Trump is not going to be a good thing for America if you haven't figured that out yet.

HarmanKardon 11-27-2016 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 340021)
I want to know if they can find out how many mail in ballots were thrown out for "technical reasons" if that is indeed possible. Plus Trump being upset about a recount threatening his legitimacy is rich considering he used race to undermine Obama's presidency as springboard to his own.

Trump is not going to be a good thing for America if you haven't figured that out yet.

I figured out that for sure, several of my nightmares in the last days and weeks can proof that. :eek:

JCricket 11-27-2016 01:41 PM

IF the recount comes back and Hillary takes those three states it would give her 278 to trumps 244. I doubt it will go that far, but it will be interesting to see.

donquixote99 11-27-2016 01:47 PM

North Carolina is to be recounted as well, at the Republican governor's instigation. He's losing, of course, but narrowly.

Dondilion 11-27-2016 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JCricket (Post 340025)
IF the recount comes back and Hillary takes those three states it would give her 278 to trumps 244. I doubt it will go that far, but it will be interesting to see.

It is just a hustle for Jill Stein. She is riding the despair, despondency, anger of the anti-Trump crowd.

You gonna see more hustles like that.

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 02:33 PM

Hypocrisy, anyone?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0aac6248591c7

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Here’s What Could Happen If Donald Trump Doesn’t Accept The Election Results
This is scary stuff.
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama...esults-2016-10

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President Barack Obama admonished Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on Thursday for refusing to say whether he will accept the outcome of the November elections.

“That is not a joking matter,” Obama said. “No, no, no. I want everyone to pay attention here."

Obama added: "That is dangerous."
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/brief...ection-claims/

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President Obama may have summed it up best: “stop whining … if you start whining before the game’s even over, if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job.” However, the President is not the only critic of Trump - editorial boards from coast-to-coast have denounced his claim and noted that Trump’s accusations of widespread fraud are “dangerous” and “outrageous.”

donquixote99 11-27-2016 03:11 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here's a look at the basic numbers in the recount states:

http://www.politicalchat.org/attachm...1&d=1480280941

North Carolina well out-of-reach. But Hillary wins if she eventually gets all three of the others. And loses if she doesn't.

donquixote99 11-27-2016 03:16 PM

The difference, TJ, should be well known to you. Aren't you the one who was assuring us of an armed revolt if the election was 'stolen' from Trump?

Has anyone suggested such illegitmate behavior from the Dems?

donquixote99 11-27-2016 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 340030)
It is just a hustle for Jill Stein. She is riding the despair, despondency, anger of the anti-Trump crowd.

You gonna see more hustles like that.

A 'hustle' is cheating done for personal gain. How is exercising a legal right 'cheating,' and how is Jill Stein standing to gain here?

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 340038)
The difference, TJ, should be well known to you. Aren't you the one who was assuring us of an armed revolt if the election was 'stolen' from Trump?

Has anyone suggested such illegitmate behavior from the Dems?

The difference is that before Nov. 8th the Hillarybots were expecting to win and they didn't want anyone to piss on their parade when they did.

But then Nov. 8th came around and Trump won so now they are pissing on Trumps parade like a cow pissing on a flat rock.

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 340039)
A 'hustle' is cheating done for personal gain. How is exercising a legal right 'cheating,' and how is Jill Stein standing to gain here?

Probably trying to get some free media so that she can ramp up her support from that 1% of hers. I'm contributing a net gain of minus one to that endeavor.

donquixote99 11-27-2016 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340041)
The difference is that before Nov. 8th the Hillarybots were expecting to win and they didn't want anyone to piss on their parade when they did.

But then Nov. 8th came around and Trump won so now they are pissing on Trumps parade like a cow pissing on a flat rock.



If he comes with range of me I'll piss on him too.

donquixote99 11-27-2016 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340046)
Probably trying to get some free media so that she can ramp up her support from that 1% of hers. I'm contributing a net gain of minus one to that endeavor.

OK. Your theory is that she's raising and spending all this money just for the glory of utterly losing an election, but by a tiny bit less.

My theory is she's out to get Trump, if she can. An idea late in coming to her, but welcome for that.

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 340050)
OK. Your theory is that she's raising and spending all this money just for the glory of utterly losing an election, but by a tiny bit less.

My theory is she's out to get Trump, if she can. An idea late in coming to her, but welcome for that.

Either way, she'll never get another vote from me.

If I could, I'd switch mine from her to Trump.

donquixote99 11-27-2016 03:43 PM

You're back on the Trumpenwagon, I see. You'll be sorry.

JCricket 11-27-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 340036)
Here's a look at the basic numbers in the recount states:

http://www.politicalchat.org/attachm...1&d=1480280941

North Carolina well out-of-reach. But Hillary wins if she eventually gets all three of the others. And loses if she doesn't.

Even if he loses two of the three, then he is no longer the 270 vote winner. It would go to the house to decide. Hmmmmmm

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 340053)
You're back on the Trumpenwagon, I see. You'll be sorry.

We shall see who will be sorry.

icenine 11-27-2016 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340061)
We shall see who will be sorry.

I pronounce thee an official Chump For Trump and the scourge of Political Chat and enshrouded by the cloak of an impenetrable Ignore Function.

Out accursed Low Information Voter!

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JCricket (Post 340056)
Even if he loses two of the three, then he is no longer the 270 vote winner. It would go to the house to decide. Hmmmmmm

Trump has 306 electoral votes.

She needs to flip at least 37 of them.

I predict she'll flip 0.

Making her look like an even bigger ass that she already is, if hat's possible.

finnbow 11-27-2016 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340064)
Making her look like an even bigger ass that she already is, if that's possible.

You voting for her made her look like as big an ass as possible.:rolleyes:

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 340065)
You voting for her made her look like as big an ass as possible.:rolleyes:

I was talking about Hillary idiot. :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlA35y0bGQc

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 04:52 PM

What Clinton is trying to do here is steal the election from Trump, like she stole the nomination from Bernie.

However she does not have 100% control over this like she and her DNC co-conspirators had over the nomination process.

finnbow 11-27-2016 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340068)
What Clinton is trying to do here is steal the election from Trump, like she stole the nomination from Bernie.

However she does not have 100% control over this like she and her DNC co-conspirators had over the nomination process.

It would be interesting to see the rug pulled out from under der Trumpenfuhrer, though it isn't gonna happen. He'd probably be relieved if it happened though.

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 340069)
It would be interesting to see the rug pulled out from under der Trumpenfuhrer, though it isn't gonna happen. He'd probably be relieved if it happened though.

Trump played to win, that's pretty obvious to me.

I think anyone subjected to the full on 24/7 character assassination attempts by the MSM, as he has been, would probably at least have some "What the fuck am I doing here?, I don't need this shit" thoughts.

donquixote99 11-27-2016 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340061)
We shall see who will be sorry.

I expect to be sorry too. But you will be sorry and ashamed.

bobabode 11-27-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 340069)
It would be interesting to see the rug pulled out from under der Trumpenfuhrer, though it isn't gonna happen. He'd probably be relieved if it happened though.

The latest tweet from the twit in chief. ;)


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
"In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...mepage%2Fstory

donquixote99 11-27-2016 05:55 PM

Trump just says stuff, y'know? Best not to think he means anything he says.

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 340074)
I expect to be sorry too. But you will be sorry and ashamed.

Well that's your prediction, now here's mine.

Trump will turn out to be an awesome President and you, like the overwhelming majority of Americans, will become one of his admirers.

But will you come around to Old Tom Joad and tell him "You were right, and I was wrong"?

Hell no.

You'll reinvent yourself and claim you were behind him all along.

Because that's the kind of person you are.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...ner_neener.gif

donquixote99 11-27-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340080)
Well that's your prediction, now here's mine.

Trump will turn out to be an awesome President and you, like the overwhelming majority of Americans, will become one of his admirers.

But will you come around to Old Tom Joad and tell him "You were right, and I was wrong"?

Hell no.

You'll reinvent yourself and claim you were behind him all along.

Because that's the kind of person you are.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...ner_neener.gif

Bluster.

1. SSA & Medicare will be gutted. Trump will explain the situation was worse than had been revealed, but the new plan is beautiful.

2. The replacement for Obama care will be awful--something like everyone gets an inadequate voucher to buy Deleware insurance, but Trump will explain that it's beautiful.

3. We'll invade Iran. Russia won't like it. World gets very dangerous.

4. We'll have to see if we get to 4.

bobabode 11-27-2016 08:15 PM

Baron von Clownstick is beshatting himself apparently. :rolleyes:

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Serious voter fraud in Virginia, New Hampshire and California - so why isn't the media reporting on this? Serious bias - big problem!
4:31 PM - 27 Nov 2016

finnbow 11-27-2016 08:16 PM

He's just being presidential. It's so easy for him, don't ya know?

Tom Joad 11-28-2016 10:05 AM

http://www.newslogue.com/debate/148

I like the way this author puts it.

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I should clarify at this point that the opposite is true of Hillary supporters; they’re obnoxious hypocrites if they support the recount. They mocked Trump and his supporters relentlessly for suggesting that the Democrats might try to rig the general election like they rigged their own primary, and before that they mocked us Berners even more cruelly for complaining about that rigged primary. They called us crybabies, petulant children, kept telling us to shut up and fall in line with their illicitly-nominated candidate even after the DNC leaks revealed that the people responsible for ensuring a fair primary had been actively conspiring against our Bernie in violation of their Charter. They’ve been bullying, cajoling and gaslighting everyone who mentions election-rigging, and they were unbelievably mean about it, but now that their “inevitable” candidate lost, they’re all in favor of a recount.

finnbow 11-28-2016 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340135)
http://www.newslogue.com/debate/148

I like the way this author puts it.

Hypocrisy goes both ways. Trump was holding out about whether he'd accept the election's results if he lost, then he criticizes Hillary when your girl, Stein, goes for a recount. Moreover, Trump just tweeted about rampant voter fraud in VA, NH and CA. How can he allege massive voter fraud and then bitch about a recount, particularly when he threatened to do exactly the same? Lastly, before the election, he claimed that fraud problems existed in PA, but shut up when he won that state. Now that he lost VA, NH and CA, they are the fraudulent states. You are one gullible sumbitch, TJ. Trump's ego depends on suck-ups like you.

Tom Joad 11-28-2016 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 340137)
Hypocrisy goes both ways. Trump was holding out about whether he'd accept the election's results if he lost, then he criticizes Hillary when your girl, Stein, goes for a recount. Moreover, Trump just tweeted about rampant voter fraud in VA, NH and CA. How can he allege massive voter fraud and then bitch about a recount, particularly when he threatened to do exactly the same? Lastly, before the election, he claimed that fraud problems existed in PA, but shut up when he won that state. Now that he lost VA, NH and CA, they are the fraudulent states. You are one gullible sumbitch, TJ. Trump's ego depends on suck-ups like you.

I suspect there was some kind of rigging by the Clinton campaign going on. They rigged the nomination against Bernie, so it's pretty naive to think they weren't trying to rig the general election too. But they didn't have complete control over the general election like they did the Democratic nomination process, so they weren't able to rig it enough for her to win.

So looking at it from Trump's point of view, here's an opponent that not only cheated, but also had virtually the entire MSM actively working for her campaign by publishing hit pieces on Trump 24/7, had twice as much money, and had the support of most of the Republican establishment behind her, and he still managed to beat her. And now, she's complaining that he cheated.

How the fuck did Trump cheat?

It was well known that he had virtually no organization on the ground to help him get out the vote, let alone cheat. The Republican establishment hated him and wanted him to lose big, so they sure as Hell didn't help him cheat. So how the FUCK did he cheat?

finnbow 11-28-2016 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340142)
I suspect there was some kind of rigging by the Clinton campaign going on. They rigged the nomination against Bernie, so it's pretty naive to think they weren't trying to rig the general election too. But they didn't have complete control over the general election like they did the Democratic nomination process, so they weren't able to rig it enough for her to win.

So looking at it from Trump's point of view, here's an opponent that not only cheated, but also had virtually the entire MSM actively working for her campaign by publishing hit pieces on Trump 24/7, had twice as much money, and had the support of most of the Republican establishment behind her, and he still managed to beat her. And now, she's complaining that he cheated.

How the fuck did Trump cheat?

It was well known that he had virtually no organization on the ground to help him get out the vote, let alone cheat. The Republican establishment hated him and wanted him to lose big, so they sure as Hell didn't help him cheat. So how the FUCK did he cheat?

Between GOP voter suppression efforts and Russia's hacking and fake news, whatever meaningful cheating that occurred benefited Trump.

Tom Joad 11-28-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 340144)
Between GOP voter suppression efforts and Russia's hacking and fake news, whatever meaningful cheating that occurred benefited Trump.

There is voter suppression by the GOP.

That's been around way before this election.

By the way, the DNC's suppression of Bernies vote far outdid anything the Republicans did.

Russian hacking is one of the most ridiculous fantasy's ever.

Fake news is a good description of the hundreds of anti-Trump hit pieces put out by the MSM.

finnbow 11-28-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340148)
There is voter suppression by the GOP.

That's been around way before this election.

By the way, the DNC's suppression of Bernies vote far outdid anything the Republicans did.

Russian hacking is one of the most ridiculous fantasy's ever.

Fake news is a good description of the hundreds of anti-Trump hit pieces put out by the MSM.

Do you actually believe the idiocy you spew?

Tom Joad 11-28-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 340156)
Do you actually believe the idiocy you spew?

Lets see. I can choose to believe that millions of working stiffs and their families in the rust belt , after being thrown under the bus for decades by the Globalization policies of both the Democrats and the Republicans, went out and voted for Trump thereby giving him the electoral college votes he needed to prevail.

Or, on the other hand I can choose to believe that "Russian Hackers" somehow managed to manipulate the vote tally and give the election to Trump.:rolleyes:

I'm gonna go with number one.


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