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Dondilion 11-26-2016 12:13 AM

Fidel Castro passes.
 
Fidel Castro, an enormous world figure, from such a small country passed quietly Friday night.

RIP

ebacon 11-26-2016 12:18 AM

RIP Fidel.

Boreas 11-26-2016 12:29 AM

¡Vinceremos!

Tom Joad 11-26-2016 07:33 AM

RIP Comandante.

Viva La Revolución!

Denier 11-26-2016 09:13 AM

I'm glad Castro is dead.

Dondilion 11-26-2016 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denier (Post 339921)
I'm glad Castro is dead.

You had a long wait.

HarmanKardon 11-26-2016 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denier (Post 339921)
I'm glad Castro is dead.


You are a sick person. Any of your until now 96 posts is a proof of that. Political Chat is most likely the only forum in the world wide web where you can post your stinky manure without being banned.

HarmanKardon 11-26-2016 01:01 PM

Rest in peace, Maximo Lider.

Wasillaguy 11-26-2016 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denier (Post 339921)
I'm glad Castro is dead.

Me too. Guy was a scumbag who has kept Cubans in poverty far too long.
Treated us to countless boatloads of the worst they had to offer, much like Trump has pointed out with Mexico.

bobabode 11-26-2016 04:18 PM

RIP Fidel.

juliovideo 11-26-2016 05:33 PM

I do not think he can rest in peace ................

Dead in the Dictatorship of Fidel Castro.

The organization "Archivo Cuba" documents 8,190 murders committed by the Castro regime.
Of this number, 5,775 people were executed and 1,234 extrajudicial killings. Another 984 were victims of homicide within prisons.

Some 8,190 people have been killed by Fidel Castro's regime since her arrival in power in 1959, and another 200 have disappeared, María Werlau, executive director of Archivo Cuba, said on Tuesday in Madrid, a project dedicated to documenting Cuban government crimes .

According to an archive investigation, of the 8,190 deaths, 5,775 were executed and 1,234 extrajudicial killings. Another 984 were victims of homicides provoked inside the prisons, Europa Press reported.

"The Castro regime has shown from its beginnings a deep disregard for human life," Werlau said when presenting the results of the investigation in Madrid during a press conference in which she was accompanied by the president of the Ibero-American Association for Libertad, Antonio Guedes, and the Spanish journalists Rosa Montero and Hermann Tertsch.

The deaths "began with summary proceedings and massive executions on the wall, which were broadcast by the media to create fear," said Werlau, according to EFE.

According to the testimonies collected, peasants, pregnant women, foreigners and even members of the communist apparatus died, "whose bodies were strolling and insulted as a method of internal propaganda."

He then added, "Castro realized that he had to take care of the international image" and "it was no longer necessary to carry out these massive executions because the fear was already established and they could do it whenever they wanted to."

The executive director of Archivo Cuba explained that the project documents the cases of its registration through inquiries and interviews with relatives of the victims.

The number of homicides verified so far shows that during the Castro term "more people have died than during the dictatorship of (Augusto) Pinochet (in Chile)," he said.

According to Werlau, the number of victims under the current Cuban regime is even greater than that revealed by the investigation, but the documentation process is slow and ambitious.

The record not only seeks to reflect the deaths that have occurred since 1959, but to expand its data until 1952, when the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista began, so that "all are considered victims and there is no grudge," he said.

"I want to tell the story of the victims, let them speak for themselves," said Werlau, who has been developing the investigation since 2001 with Professor Armando Lago. Archive Cuba presents its results on the site www.archivocuba.org.

Project investigations reveal that many children have been targeted by the "repressive system". So far there are 93 documented cases.

The cause of these deaths have been mostly extrajudicial killings (31), followed by 27 murders for attempting to flee Cuba (three of them accidental); 22 for executions, 12 for being considered "rebels in combat," and one case for medical malpractice within a prison.

On the other hand, so far 216 women and girls have died "for political reasons". Most of them attempted to leave the island illegally and were intercepted by Cuban border guards who fired on the boats.

As for prisons, the investigation has revealed 159 murders, 209 deaths from medical malpractice, 264 suicides, 21 accidents and 331 for "alleged natural causes."

"The death rate in prisons is greater than that of the rest of the population," Werlau said.

The current Cuban law contemplates the possibility of applying the death penalty in 112 crimes. It is the measure that "the Castro regime has always assumed" to warn citizens that "they are the only ones who send there and do what they want," he said.

The figures revealed by Archive Cuba this Tuesday do not include people who have died trying to escape the Island by sea. However, Werlau said, although there are no precise statistics in this respect the estimates point to about 20,000 deaths from this cause.

https://www.taringa.net/post/info/17...el-Castro.html

Boreas 11-26-2016 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 339952)
Me too. Guy was a scumbag who has kept Cubans in poverty far too long.
Treated us to countless boatloads of the worst they had to offer, much like Trump has pointed out with Mexico.

As usual, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Boreas 11-26-2016 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juliovideo (Post 339969)
I do not think he can rest in peace ................

Dead in the Dictatorship of Fidel Castro.

The organization "Archivo Cuba" documents 8,190 murders committed by the Castro regime.
Of this number, 5,775 people were executed and 1,234 extrajudicial killings. Another 984 were victims of homicide within prisons.

Some 8,190 people have been killed by Fidel Castro's regime since her arrival in power in 1959, and another 200 have disappeared, María Werlau, executive director of Archivo Cuba, said on Tuesday in Madrid, a project dedicated to documenting Cuban government crimes .

According to an archive investigation, of the 8,190 deaths, 5,775 were executed and 1,234 extrajudicial killings. Another 984 were victims of homicides provoked inside the prisons, Europa Press reported.

"The Castro regime has shown from its beginnings a deep disregard for human life," Werlau said when presenting the results of the investigation in Madrid during a press conference in which she was accompanied by the president of the Ibero-American Association for Libertad, Antonio Guedes, and the Spanish journalists Rosa Montero and Hermann Tertsch.

The deaths "began with summary proceedings and massive executions on the wall, which were broadcast by the media to create fear," said Werlau, according to EFE.

According to the testimonies collected, peasants, pregnant women, foreigners and even members of the communist apparatus died, "whose bodies were strolling and insulted as a method of internal propaganda."

He then added, "Castro realized that he had to take care of the international image" and "it was no longer necessary to carry out these massive executions because the fear was already established and they could do it whenever they wanted to."

The executive director of Archivo Cuba explained that the project documents the cases of its registration through inquiries and interviews with relatives of the victims.

The number of homicides verified so far shows that during the Castro term "more people have died than during the dictatorship of (Augusto) Pinochet (in Chile)," he said.

According to Werlau, the number of victims under the current Cuban regime is even greater than that revealed by the investigation, but the documentation process is slow and ambitious.

The record not only seeks to reflect the deaths that have occurred since 1959, but to expand its data until 1952, when the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista began, so that "all are considered victims and there is no grudge," he said.

"I want to tell the story of the victims, let them speak for themselves," said Werlau, who has been developing the investigation since 2001 with Professor Armando Lago. Archive Cuba presents its results on the site www.archivocuba.org.

Project investigations reveal that many children have been targeted by the "repressive system". So far there are 93 documented cases.

The cause of these deaths have been mostly extrajudicial killings (31), followed by 27 murders for attempting to flee Cuba (three of them accidental); 22 for executions, 12 for being considered "rebels in combat," and one case for medical malpractice within a prison.

On the other hand, so far 216 women and girls have died "for political reasons". Most of them attempted to leave the island illegally and were intercepted by Cuban border guards who fired on the boats.

As for prisons, the investigation has revealed 159 murders, 209 deaths from medical malpractice, 264 suicides, 21 accidents and 331 for "alleged natural causes."

"The death rate in prisons is greater than that of the rest of the population," Werlau said.

The current Cuban law contemplates the possibility of applying the death penalty in 112 crimes. It is the measure that "the Castro regime has always assumed" to warn citizens that "they are the only ones who send there and do what they want," he said.

The figures revealed by Archive Cuba this Tuesday do not include people who have died trying to escape the Island by sea. However, Werlau said, although there are no precise statistics in this respect the estimates point to about 20,000 deaths from this cause.

https://www.taringa.net/post/info/17...el-Castro.html

Those are some bogus statistics.

bobabode 11-26-2016 05:41 PM

As if Batista was any better than Castro. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

juliovideo 11-26-2016 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 339971)
Those are some bogus statistics.


I'm sorry, I know it hurts ...... but the world should know the truth and that's what i do.

Dondilion 11-26-2016 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 339952)
Me too. Guy was a scumbag who has kept Cubans in poverty far too long.
Treated us to countless boatloads of the worst they had to offer, much like Trump has pointed out with Mexico.

Another view.

He did great work in Africa.

Countered the prolongation of Colonialism.

Prevented the spread of Apartheid.

Assisted greatly in the field of Public Health.

Wasillaguy 11-26-2016 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 339970)
As usual, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Right. I suppose they drive those 50-60 yr old cars for fun. Just a big classic car club.
And my memory of 1980 is flawed too, I guess. I thought Carter forced the criminals on Gov. Clinton at Fort Chafee and refused Clinton's request that they be screened first and the ugly ones be sent to Guantanamo. I must have imagined the riot, fire, locals patrolling the outskirts of the fort ready to clean house, etc.

Boreas 11-26-2016 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juliovideo (Post 339973)
I'm sorry, I know it hurts ...... but the world should know the truth and that's what i do.

Since when is it legitimate to categorize lawful executions as murders or murders committed in prison, suicides and deaths by "medical malpractice" as murders by the state?

And your total number represrents 144 deaths per year. Any American state would feel they were doing great if their annual death toll were that low.

Wasillaguy 11-26-2016 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 339980)
Since when is it legitimate to categorize lawful executions as murders or murders committed in prison, suicides and deaths by "medical malpractice" as murders by the state?

And your total number represrents 144 deaths per year. Any American state would feel they were doing great of their annual death toll were that low.

Yet you don't see anyone getting on a raft to escape TO Cuba.

By the way, I think you get that his stats are a tally of political murder, not the murder rate overall.

juliovideo 11-26-2016 07:58 PM

I love this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgchzIgyR2g


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bobabode 11-26-2016 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 339981)
Yet you don't see anyone getting on a raft to escape TO Cuba.

Just wait. ;)

Boreas 11-26-2016 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 339981)
Yet you don't see anyone getting on a raft to escape TO Cuba.

By the way, I think you get that his stats are a tally of political murder, not the murder rate overall.

Who said things were better in Cuba than they are here?

If that's what the author trying to put out there, then they should say so.

Wasillaguy 11-26-2016 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 339985)
Who said things were better in Cuba than they are here?

If that's what the author trying to put out there, then they should say so.

I was responding to your comment, that's why it shows as a reply, to your comment. You implied that Americans would love to have a murder rate like Cuba's.
All to deflect from my points regarding 1980/Carter/Clinton, of course.

Boreas 11-26-2016 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 339986)
I was responding to your comment, that's why it shows as a reply, to your comment. You implied that Americans would love to have a murder rate like Cuba's.
All to deflect from my points regarding 1980/Carter/Clinton, of course.

My comment about the murder rate wasn't even directed to you or your "points". It was directed toward juliovideo. Clean the muktuk out of your ears and pay attention.

As for Carter, Clinton and the Mariel boat people, what does Castro's dumping a bunch of prisoners and petty criminals on us nearly 40 years ago have to do with the state of the Cuban economy then or now?

Wasillaguy 11-26-2016 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 339992)
My comment about the murder rate wasn't even directed to you or your "points". It was directed toward juliovideo. Clean the muktuk out of your ears and pay attention.

As for Carter, Clinton and the Mariel boat people, what does Castro's dumping a bunch of prisoners and petty criminals on us nearly 40 years ago have to do with the state of the Cuban economy then or now?

I get that your comment was directed at Julio. That's why it shows as a reply to him.
I never said the crap Castro pulled with the boat people had fuck-all to do with their economy. I said it was a reason I was glad the shithead was dead.

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 339993)
I get that your comment was directed at Julio. That's why it shows as a reply to him.
I never said the crap Castro pulled with the boat people had fuck-all to do with their economy. I said it was a reason I was glad the shithead was dead.

I'll be glad when you're dead. Have your next of kin post a notice here when it happens. I'm not much of a drinking man, but I'll go out and buy a bottle of Jack to celebrate that.

Wasillaguy 11-27-2016 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 339997)
I'll be glad when you're dead. Have your next of kin post a notice here when it happens. I'm not much of a drinking man, but I'll go out and buy a bottle of Jack to celebrate that.

I'll make you glad if it's the last thing I do.
Oh wait, it will be the last thing I do!

JCricket 11-27-2016 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 340002)
I'll make you glad if it's the last thing I do.
Oh wait, it will be the last thing I do!

If my death, the last thing I would do, would entertain "certain members" here, then I absolutely would refuse to die. ;)

Wasillaguy 11-27-2016 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCricket (Post 340007)
If my death, the last thing I would do, would entertain "certain members" here, then I absolutely would refuse to die. ;)

I see your point, but I figure eventually time will over come willpower anyway.
Joad doesn't seem to find much joy in life, so I reckon it ain't so bad if he gets a grin out of my demise. At that point it's not gonna bother me any.

Boreas 11-27-2016 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 340002)
I'll make you glad if it's the last thing I do.
Oh wait, it will be the last thing I do!

Maybe not.

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 340010)
I see your point, but I figure eventually time will over come willpower anyway.

In your case it will be stupidity that prevails.

As dumb as you are I figure you're a shoo in for an early Darwin award.

Wasillaguy 11-27-2016 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340033)
In your case it will be stupidity that prevails.

As dumb as you are I figure you're a shoo in for an early Darwin award.

Thanks for your support bud. I'm all hopped up now, ain't never won no awards before, but I'm on a streak lately. Obama's out, the dems are a shambles, MSM has zero credibility, no snow on the ground at the end of Nov, Castro is toast, leftover turkey sandwiches, and my brother doesn't call since the election.
That's a win, win, win, win, win, win, win!

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 340040)
Thanks for your support bud. I'm all hopped up now, ain't never won no awards before, but I'm on a streak lately. Obama's out, the dems are a shambles, MSM has zero credibility, no snow on the ground at the end of Nov, Castro is toast, leftover turkey sandwiches, and my brother doesn't call since the election.
That's a win, win, win, win, win, win, win!

Q. Why did Wasillaguy cross the road?

A. Because he couldn't get his dick out of the chicken.

Wasillaguy 11-27-2016 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340049)
Q. Why did Wasillaguy cross the road?

A. Because he couldn't get his dick out of the chicken.

That's classy Tom, for an 8 year old. Are we drinking early today?

Tom Joad 11-27-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 340051)
Are we drinking early today?

Nope.

I saving that for when your obituary gets posted.

Now, howabout you go run your snowmobile over some thin ice?

Boreas 11-27-2016 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340059)
Nope.

I saving that for when your obituary gets posted.

Now, howabout you go run your snowmobile over some thin ice?


No ice yet either.

Global warming's a bitch.

Wasillaguy 11-27-2016 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 340070)
No ice yet either.

Global warming's a bitch.

Wrong. All the area lakes are frozen. People have been ice fishing for weeks.

HarmanKardon 11-30-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 340049)
Q. Why did Wasillaguy cross the road?

A. Because he couldn't get his dick out of the chicken.

Almost peed my pants! :D

Obviously I am 8 years old! :D

Thanks for the laugh, Tom! ;)

Tom Joad 12-05-2016 05:49 PM

Despite US Propaganda, Fidel Castro Beloved Worldwide
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSoHml9zHrY

Tom Joad 12-07-2016 09:04 AM

"History will absolve me"
 
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...e-decades.html

Quote:

“Condemn me. It does not matter. History will absolve me.” — Oct. 16, 1953, at his trial for rebel attack that launched Cuban Revolution.
I am convinced that Fidel Castro will go down in history as one of the greatest humanitarians that ever lived, while the United States of America will go down as one of the most evil empires ever.


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