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barbara 11-19-2016 07:42 AM

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Taking bets on how long before impeachment proceedings begin for Trump.

Also, bets on what he will be impeached for.

Tom Joad 11-19-2016 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 338972)
Taking bets on how long before impeachment proceedings begin for Trump.

Also, bets on what he will be impeached for.

He will be impeached on the 12th.

The 12th of Never.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GtMpyAejUo

What does concern me is that he is a threat to the ruling class.

The last President who was a threat to the ruling class was JFK, and we all know what happened to him.

JCricket 11-19-2016 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 338972)
Taking bets on how long before impeachment proceedings begin for Trump.

Also, bets on what he will be impeached for.

Hey Barbara,
Interesting question. I thought there would be more discussion on him facing RICO and racketeering charges. Impeachment won't happen as long as he play ball with the republicans. But, I do suspect he may not play ball (at least not nicely) with anyone. I am hoping the GOP will keep him tethered.

As TJ above referenced JFK and assassination, I would consider this to be as likely as impeachment. Especially with how discontent our country seems to be at this time.

To answer your question, I think mid-February will be the soonest we will see anything start. Maybe as late as end of April. It would not surprise me to see him out by the end of 2017. Either this or never, as most presidents have a pretty slippery layer of oil protecting them.

barbara 11-19-2016 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JCricket (Post 338976)
Hey Barbara,

Interesting question. I thought there would be more discussion on him facing RICO and racketeering charges. Impeachment won't happen as long as he play ball with the republicans. But, I do suspect he may not play ball (at least not nicely) with anyone. I am hoping the GOP will keep him tethered.



As TJ above referenced JFK and assassination, I would consider this to be as likely as impeachment. Especially with how discontent our country seems to be at this time.



To answer your question, I think mid-February will be the soonest we will see anything start. Maybe as late as end of April. It would not surprise me to see him out by the end of 2017. Either this or never, as most presidents have a pretty slippery layer of oil protecting them.



Thanks for the thoughtful response.

I think he will commit impeachable offenses within the first nine months of his presidency.

But, I don't think any serious action will be taken until after the mid term elections when/if the congress is more balanced.

As much as I don't like the guy, I don't wish an assassination for him for two reasons. I wouldn't wish that for anyone and, as bad as Trump is as a leader, Pence would be worse.

Oerets 11-19-2016 09:04 AM

I afraid as long as the GOP gets their agenda implemented, once the system is totally rigged for any future elections. Along with the court, then the takeover will be complete.
The propaganda news of Bannon will insure the faithful followers and drown out the truth.

The proof is in just how quickly the GOP have lined up to kiss the ring.

Barney

barbara 11-19-2016 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 338983)
I afraid as long as the GOP gets their agenda implemented, once the system is totally rigged for any future elections. Along with the court, then the takeover will be complete.
The propaganda news of Bannon will insure the faithful followers and drown out the truth.

The proof is in just how quickly the GOP have lined up to kiss the ring.

Barney



I hope you are wrong and fear you might be right.

Pio1980 11-19-2016 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 338980)
Thanks for the thoughtful response.

I think he will commit impeachable offenses within the first nine months of his presidency.

But, I don't think any serious action will be taken until after the mid term elections when/if the congress is more balanced.

As much as I don't like the guy, I don't wish an assassination for him for two reasons. I wouldn't wish that for anyone and, as bad as Trump is as a leader, Pence would be worse.

Again, agree.
The 'phony university' fraud settlement takes a large problem off this table and pushes this example of his self serving petty avariciousness back into yesterdayland forgetting.


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icenine 11-19-2016 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 338974)
He will be impeached on the 12th.

The 12th of Never.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GtMpyAejUo

What does concern me is that he is a threat to the ruling class.

The last President who was a threat to the ruling class was JFK, and we all know what happened to him.

He was shot by an American with close ties to the USSR. Oswald was not protecting the upper elite. I don't know if you are being ironic or just ignorant.
I suspect the latter.

icenine 11-19-2016 09:37 AM

You can't fake the Presidency. Trump can't change. When I see the first signs of his political demise I will start a thread entitled with a provocative title.

icenine 11-19-2016 09:45 AM

Trump has to do a blind trust.
Get his adult kids out of the government and White House.
Dump alt right Bannon.

Be competent.


Otherwise he is heading for a swift demise.

Pio1980 11-19-2016 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 338994)
Trump has to do a blind trust.
Get his adult kids out of the government and White House.
Dump alt right Bannon.

Be competent.


Otherwise he is heading for a swift demise.

Agreed, all.

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finnbow 11-19-2016 10:10 AM

Unless and until he totally freaks out Ryan and McConnell with a bunch of programs and policies that set conservatives hair on fire and Fox News and talk radio react strongly against him, Trump is safe. Neither Ryan nor McConnell will do anything to upset the GOP base. Without their base, they are nothing but a party of the callous rich.

donquixote99 11-19-2016 10:16 AM

Basically, Trump is safe until he is hung by partisans at a gas station in Harrisburg PA.

Boreas 11-19-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 339006)
Basically, Trump is safe until he is hung by partisans at a gas station in Harrisburg PA.

You must be familiar with Dauphin County, a decidedly ugly place. And I agree that, as long as he plays ball with Congress, he's safe as houses.

Rajoo 11-19-2016 10:40 AM

Title of this thread should be 'Wishful Thinking'.
Question is, what are the odds that the Senate or the House turns Blue. Not very good in the next two years with the leadership ensconced in the Blue Team. Hillary may be history but not Team Hillary.

Rajoo 11-19-2016 11:02 AM

Senate Democrats’ Surprising Strategy: Trying to Align With Trump

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Mr. Trump campaigned on some issues that Democrats have long championed and Republicans resisted: spending more on roads, bridges and rail, punishing American companies that move jobs overseas, ending a lucrative tax break for hedge fund and private equity titans, and making paid maternity leave mandatory.

Some Democrats are even co-opting Mr. Trump’s language from the campaign. “Every single person in our caucus agrees the system is rigged,” said Senator Debbie Stabenow, Democrat of Michigan.
Every politician is a survivor first and last, especially the Senators who also have their huge ego's to content with. And so much for women against Trump. Besides Schumer has always been a rat.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/us...se-senate.html

JCricket 11-19-2016 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 338980)
Thanks for the thoughtful response.

I think he will commit impeachable offenses within the first nine months of his presidency.

But, I don't think any serious action will be taken until after the mid term elections when/if the congress is more balanced.

As much as I don't like the guy, I don't wish an assassination for him for two reasons. I wouldn't wish that for anyone and, as bad as Trump is as a leader, Pence would be worse.

I am not sure it is an impeachable offense, but his continuing to have any control in his companies is a direct conflict of interest expressly forbidden. At least this is my understanding. I would love to see the American people make him choose, presidency or you companies. Take or office and donate your companies, or leave. Pipe dream I know.

Pio1980 11-19-2016 12:24 PM

Still don't want a President Pence to turn loose the clowns Trump has appointed.

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JCricket 11-19-2016 12:25 PM

I do wonder what the moderate right folks think of Trump and his appointments so far. I would think they are having the same reaction as the dems had when Obama first took office.

So you moderates, what say you about Trumps current "set of folks"

Rajoo 11-19-2016 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 339039)
Still don't want a President Pence to turn loose the clowns Trump has appointed.

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Agreed, threat of a Pence presidency far exceeds the debacle of a Trump presidency.

Tom Joad 11-19-2016 12:38 PM

I'm going to go with my gut:D, which is right about 80% of the time.

Chances of:

Impeached, removed from office = 0%
Resigns during middle of term = 10%
Assassinated = 10%
Declines to run for second term = 10%
Fails in reelection bid = 20%
Reelected for second term serves full 8 years = 50%

Tom Joad 11-19-2016 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 338992)
He was shot by an American with close ties to the USSR. Oswald was not protecting the upper elite. I don't know if you are being ironic or just ignorant.
I suspect the latter.

You believe the Warren report version?

You really are gullible. :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LcvNM7oc7k

Rajoo 11-19-2016 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 339045)
I'm going to go with my gut:D, which is right about 80% of the time.

Chances of:

Impeached, removed from office = 0%
Resigns during middle of term = 10%
Assassinated = 10%
Declines to run for second term = 10%
Fails in reelection bid = 20%
Reelected for second term serves full 8 years = 50%

...which is Tubular as it's been diagnosed here....:D

icenine 11-19-2016 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 339047)
You believe the Warren report version?

You really are gullible. :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LcvNM7oc7k

You just revealed your superficial devotion to conspiracy theories. You are an easy tool for Paul Ryan.

Dondilion 11-19-2016 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 338983)

The proof is in just how quickly the GOP have lined up to kiss the ring.

Barney

Why not, Trump has just put the last jewel in the GOP crown.

donquixote99 11-19-2016 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 339047)
You believe the Warren report version?

You really are gullible. :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LcvNM7oc7k

Have looked at some stuff on this. Not Bill Hicks, but some stuff. I'm on this bus with you, Tom.

It wasn't Oswald, Oswald was the diversion/fall guy, probably told to shoot to miss. Real killer fired from grassy knoll and got away clean.

The 'immaculate bullet' was planted.

Oswald met with Dallas officer J.D Tippit and probably killed him when Tippit gave him word that made Oswald realize he'd been had, and was going down for the assassination.

Some very fishy things went on in Dallas Police HQ in the two days between between Oswald's arrest, and his killing by Jack Ruby. No one has broken silence on Oswald's interrogation or much else.

Jack Ruby was incredibly afraid of something, but no one seems to know what.

That's most of what I'm able to say, it's enough to call the Warren Report very wrong, but further info is only speculation AFAIK.

Boreas 11-19-2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 339039)
Still don't want a President Pence to turn loose the clowns Trump has appointed.

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Trump will turn them loose. That's what they were chosen for.

Tom Joad 11-19-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 339014)
Besides Schumer has always been a rat.

Quote:

“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.”
Chuck Schumer said that.

And they picked this guy to be Senate Minority leader. :rolleyes:

But even so. I think there are a number of issues where they can work with Trump.

To me, Trump is the most liberal Republican President since Nixon, or maybe even Eisenhower.

On the flip side of that Hillary would have been the most right wing Democratic President since, God I don't know, before FDR for sure.

Trump was able to win by running both to the right, and the left of her.

Here's an interesting article that appeared in the Nation way back in March that examined that possibility.

It turned out to be quite accurate.

https://www.thenation.com/article/ho...all-elections/

Quote:

How Donald Trump Could Beat Hillary Clinton
In the general election, he could win by running to her left—and her right.


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