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Tom Joad 11-18-2016 02:27 PM

Yes, We Cost Hillary The Election. You're Welcome.
 
I love this article. This article is awesome!

http://www.newslogue.com/debate/111

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The Democrats have been so aggressive in their mad rush to blame Clinton's loss on everyone from Jill Stein to James Comey to millennials to racism to a vast global conspiracy between Trump, Putin, WikiLeaks, the FBI, the Illuminati, and Skeletor from He-Man, that in response to that aggression a lot of people have been instinctively refusing to take responsibility for her loss.
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I say the hell with that. Yes, people like me absolutely helped kill Hillary Clinton's run for the White House. Of course we did. Why deny it? It was the right thing to do.
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...18223917_1.jpg

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Yes we refused to support a woman with an extensive history of pushing for disastrous acts of military aggression at every opportunity who was showing every sign of bringing us into a world war with a nuclear superpower and its allies, and our lack of support cost her the election. You're welcome. Pick a less psychotic candidate next time.
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I don't know what kind of president Donald Trump will be, but I've got a very good idea of what kind of president Hillary Clinton would have been. That's why I never supported her.
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Yes, we we Bernie-or-busters cost the Democrats the election with our refusal to support their horrible candidate. And if they don't change their ways and change them drastically, we will gleefully do it again. And again and again and again. We're not taking your crap anymore.
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Pio1980 11-18-2016 02:33 PM

Revenge, regardless of consequences. That's what this election has been.

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Tom Joad 11-18-2016 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 338874)
Revenge, regardless of consequences. That's what this election has been.

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Peace with Russia instead of military confrontation are some consequences I can live with.

donquixote99 11-18-2016 03:01 PM

The election was close enough that ALL claims of credit and/or assignments of blame are plausible.

Tom Joad 11-18-2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 338880)
The election was close enough that ALL claims of credit and/or assignments of blame are plausible.

True enough.

But there are some indicators.

Of what, I'm not sure.

For example, what do you say contributed to Trump winning your home state of Ohio by 9 points, when Romney lost to Obama by 2 in 2012? That's quite a turnaround. 11 points.

ZeroJunk 11-18-2016 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 338905)
True enough.

But there are some indicators.

Of what, I'm not sure.

For example, what do you say contributed to Trump winning your home state of Ohio by 9 points, when Romney lost to Obama by 2 in 2012? That's quite a turnaround. 11 points.

I'm just a moron and I can tell you. When was the last time you heard the campaign even mention the working middle class. Headlines were LGBT, Latinos, Black lives matter. And, if you mentioned what about us you were called whatever the derogatory term of the day was.

Tom Joad 11-18-2016 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 338907)
I'm just a moron and I can tell you. When was the last time you heard the campaign even mention the working middle class. Headlines were LGBT, Latinos, Black lives matter. And, if you mentioned what about us you were called whatever the derogatory term of the day was.

Lot of truth in that.

Including the part about you being a moron.

ZeroJunk 11-18-2016 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 338908)
Lot of truth in that.

Including the part about you being a moron.

LOL, I don't think anybody is likely to accuse you of being a genius. :)

Boreas 11-18-2016 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 338907)
I'm just a moron and I can tell you. When was the last time you heard the campaign even mention the working middle class. Headlines were LGBT, Latinos, Black lives matter. And, if you mentioned what about us you were called whatever the derogatory term of the day was.

Ever listen to one of Bernie's stump speeches?

Just sayin'.

Rajoo 11-18-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 338922)
Ever listen to one of Bernie's stump speeches?

Just sayin'.

Capitalists do not listen to speeches from Communists. ;)

ZeroJunk 11-18-2016 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 338922)
Ever listen to one of Bernie's stump speeches?

Just sayin'.

They threw his ass in the creek from the start.

Boreas 11-18-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 338925)
They threw his ass in the creek from the start.

Answer the question.

ZeroJunk 11-18-2016 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 338930)
Answer the question.

There was a question ?

One would think that when Hillary saw the support Sanders was getting she might have asked the question why.

Pio1980 11-18-2016 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 338907)
I'm just a moron and I can tell you. When was the last time you heard the campaign even mention the working middle class. Headlines were LGBT, Latinos, Black lives matter. And, if you mentioned what about us you were called whatever the derogatory term of the day was.

I think that in the course of taking the 'Pubs' throwaway minorities on board and assuring them they mattered and the Dems would have their back, it didn't occur to them they needed to remind and assure the working class that they'd always had theirs.


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Pio1980 11-19-2016 12:04 AM

A Berniac's optimism crushed and memorialized in the worst way.
Man loses bet, gets Donald Trump tattoo

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/national/h...ttoo/468436860


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merrylander 11-19-2016 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 338878)
Peace with Russia instead of military confrontation are some consequences I can live with.

I'm not sure the people of the Ukraine and other Baltic states feel as sanguine.

Pio1980 11-19-2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 339021)
I'm not sure the people of the Ukraine and other Baltic states feel as sanguine.

Right, "we only seek peace". A piece of this, a piece of that. See, no problem.

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ZeroJunk 11-19-2016 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 338947)
I think that in the course of taking the 'Pubs' throwaway minorities on board and assuring them they mattered and the Dems would have their back, it didn't occur to them they needed to remind and assure the working class that they'd always had theirs.


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I agree with that sentiment although I think the middle class came to the conclusion that they really didn't have their back, correctly or incorrectly.


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