Pulling a Wells Fargo.
 

I guess that could become a standard phrase. Anyway, this how we take care of our own. Sad.


Nice, huh? I wonder what they are doing about "Gold Star" soldiers.

Carl

Interesting question. Likewise, do you get some credit if you got some part or parts blown off?

Total crock. They took the money in good faith.

The reasons this happened aren't dissimilar to WF pressure to recruit new accounts. The perpetrators of the pressure are imo accountable.

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Our elected leaders?

No doubt they will go after the parents, we really need to kick out the Secretary of the Army, in addition to being a misogynist he now is just plain mean.

No, the unelected appointed leaders that applied the pressure thru unrealistic goal setting.


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Fielding the ground forces required once the nationalistic popularity of the war had worn away was not an easy task. A professional military is the cause of this abuse of soldiers no longer needed and abusing no longer needed soldiers is an American tradition.

Part of the cost not accounted in warhawking without forsight.
I never had to suffer for being a vet, either by being the symbol of sombodies' 'something', or by Conservative cost cutting (other then Graham-Rudman under Reagan reneging on dental care). I accept the hearing aids and Tricare as a sort of apology.

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It must be noted that the unelected, appointed Secretary of the Army serves at the pleasure of the President.

This is fraud, committed knowingly and with forethought, by the Guard recruiters.

As former military, I know the conditions these veterans served in, and the sacrifices they made because they honorably committed to a contract in order to gain a financial advantage at the beginning of their reenlistment period. They should be able to retain the paid bonuses.

Visiting financial ruin upon vets who honorably served is Kafkaesque, immoral, and an example of a military without a mind.

Oh, you served in Afghanistan and/or Iraq, and you survived? Congratulations, now return that bonus.

Penny wise, pound foolishness is a trait of people in authority incapable of managing large sums of money, like the top brass at the Pentagon.

Discovered to be a true bait and switch?

Enlistees should keep the $$$.

I dunno that they "manage" as much as just hand it over to crony contractors.

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The real irony is that like the Soviet "Afghantsi" they served for nothing.

Government is quite good at this sort of thing. The verdict against us was remanded Sept 8- still waiting to see any check. Asshole went on vacation, maybe he will be back Monday

More coming out about this. Seems a few at the top of the National Guard destroyed thousands of files in order to hinder prosecution. Let those who served keep the money, they fulfilled their part. They are not the ones who committed fraud, the ones in charge were. Make them pay it back!



Barney

It is hitting the fan in Congress so maybe they will do summat to stop this nonsense.

This Sunday is the National Day of Remembrance for all the Cold War Patriots, those who gave their lives in the service of this country..

Looks like it was too close to election time for the scumbags in Congress to obstruct and had to actually take action on something. Oh the humanity.Or is it Hannity, or maybe Manatee? :eek:

Carl

Did Congress have anything to do with it? I understand the Army has halted collection action and will review everything next year. That's executive branch.

The California National Guard offered bonuses of $15,000 or more for people who enlisted at the height of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon worked Wednesday to stave off a public relations nightmare, suspending efforts to force California National Guard troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan to repay their enlistment bonuses that may have been improperly awarded.

Defense Secretary Ash Carter ordered the suspension in the wake of angry reaction from congressional Republicans and Democrats. They demanded he relieve the burden on Guard members following news reports that soldiers were asked to repay bonuses that in some cases totaled more than $25,000.

The announcement does not end the reimbursement process, but postpones collection efforts while the Pentagon and Congress look for a long-term solution.
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Carl

This should have never burdened those who signed on and served in good faith. In the grand scheme of military budgeting, this is chump change and should be restored and forgotton, with liability assigned upstairs where the offer and pressure originated.

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Those who offered these unauthorized signing bonuses should be fired and then prosecuted, just like those in Wells Fargo need to be. Why is it in government/military those in charge take the blame but on Wall St. the CEO's are treated like royalty and given bonuses for their criminal acts?

Carl