The debasing of American politics
 

Excellent article. http://www.economist.com/news/leader...ericanpolitics

It started when blow job entered the dinner conversation. :(

And that was the doing of political rivals a.k.a. Republicans. Nobody said a word about FDR and Lucy Rutherfurd, Ike and Kay Summersby, or JFK and Marilyn Monroe, and certainly not Abe Lincoln and Joshua Speed. Private lives were always just that: private and off limits until a serial adulterer from Georgia made them "fair game".

I hate Republicans with every fiber of my being.

Here's the debasing of American politics right here, actively coordinated and orchestrated by the media, the Democrats and surrogates.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...108304112.html

One needs no further evidence of this than the recent releases from Wikileaks.

And we have a president who wants to put someone in charge of "curating" it: https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-dec...214642552.html

I'm sure his buddies at Google will be happy to take that on. Here comes 1984, just a few years late.

...and its pretty clear that's what fuels your posts. :rolleyes:

Good morning, sunshine.

If Bill Clinton's offense(s) were impeachable, that should then automatically disqualify Trump and then by default, Hillary becomes President. Is that what you are advocating whell? :)

Last night on the newshour David Brooks described all the wikileaks leaks as boring, just boring.

Not to the progressives from what I see.
Let's look at the bright side, her speeches to WS is no longer a secret. ;)

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...-street-229825

Honestly, Whell, how difficult is if for you to watch the nominee of your party behaving the way he is now? I know that you will try to deflect by raising accusations against Bill Clinton, but focus for a minute. Don't you fear for what his candidacy is doing to your party?

But it's a carpet of lies, Don. Don't you realize that? Mr. Trump is a good Christian man who would never do any of those things. We have his word for it.

Ha! Come the Trump revolution, you'll find Whell online, somewhere, explaining why we all had to be shot.

Donald Trump’s New Attack Strategy: Curb Clinton Vote
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-t...ome-1476221895

Well, that's a nice twisting of fact. You seem to be forgetting what Clinton was impeached for.

On the other hand, if Clinton's offenses were met by him and his constituents with lies and attempts to assassinate the character of his accusers - and his wife was not a small participant in those matter - and his actions just didn't matter to Democrats at the time, then why do you care about what Trump is accused of now?

I can just imagine he indignation that would be manifest of the left if today one of Trump's surrogates said something about the women making these accusations like: ""If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find."

...apparently about as much as you care about the character deficits of the nominee of your party. :rolleyes:

You are the one that is deflecting the topic, and where did I twist the fact?
This is a comparison between Bill and Donald's virtues and escapades, and why should their respective constituents enter into the conversation? :confused:

You're a stitch, Don. But wasn't that you spinning for Hillary in the Saudi / Qatar thread? :rolleyes:

No, the article was about media treatment of those "escapades". In the Clinton's case, as pointed out in the Podesta emails, the media is a constituency.

Lame, but not surprising. I should have known better than to expect you to answer a question with even a hint of sincerity.

And your answer was absolutely a false equivalency. Even a shill must cringe a little bit when trying to compare Trump to a real human being.

But you know what? Come November, instead of trying to determine what shreds are left of my party, I will be looking forward to continued dominance in presidential politics.

Just to be clear, whose character deficits are you referring to again in this discussion?

Hillary is (probably) a liar. Dump is a perverted megalomnaiacal threat for THE ENTIRE WORLD. Will you Americans realize this extremely serious fact timely???

The liar badge kinda goes with being a politician in my book. So matters not! My hope is the nation as a whole now see's the man behind the curtain for the dangerous person he is.


Barney

When a Republican does it, it's not adultery.......or incest.....or rape.....or perversion........or embezzlement.....or........tax evasion... He simply begs his imaginary friend in the sky for forgiveness and that makes is all good.

I agree; They are extremely hate-able.

Seconded!

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I suppose sarcasm doesn't translate so well.:p

Here's a hint of sincerity for you. Its now pretty obvious that the media colludes with the Dems. If Podesta's emails aren't proof enough, here's a reminder that the media is more than willing to run without facts if they can develop a hit piece in the middle of an election cycle.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021903112.html

They're doing it again this time. Sincerely, this is Hillary and her friends in the media "going low". And they do it quite often. They tried to do it to Bush Sr. As pointed out above, they tried to do it to McCain. They tried it on Gingrich in 2012. Now, you might not think much of Gingrich, but there's no way that Clinton would have been asked this question like this leading off a debate. The media was dragged to the discussion of Clinton's treatment of women kicking and screaming, and they still don't give his accusers any notice.

In my opinion, Gringrich handled this perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj7OHEnz9KE

I hope Trump finds this video and takes some notes. I don't think there's any question that this crap will be brought up on Weds night. How do I know it? Because if the Democrat party's associates in the media are nothing else, they are consistent.

Fox News is now part of the media cabal supporting Clinton? Seriously?? :rolleyes:

It's not going to rescue Trump from himself.

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Well, you make it obvious that you got the candidate you deserve, and I wish you well with the shreds of your party.

So whell, are you speaking in support of Trump or simply feeling sorry for him and the situation he finds himself in?

Neither. I think the posts are clear enough.

Right back atcha, counselor.

That all you got? These days it must be harder than usual being, well, you.

You wish your best days were as good as my shitty ones.

Who knows. But they are a pretty significant Clinton donor.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...A20140702.html

..and James Murdoch is a big Clinton Foundation donor.

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/co...0%2C000&page=1

Doesn't mean that they're flacking for Clinton, but...

Actually, in all these years I haven't observed a single thing about you that could be characterized as good, not one mournful little thing.

Looks like petty cash amounts in the grand scheme of things and contrary to the whiffed up conspiracy theories, the Clinton Foundation is a very highly rated charity. A higher rating than even the Red Cross but...whatever.

Go ahead and cling to the notion that Chris Wallace and Fox News are in the bag for Hillary Clinton, Mike.

Chuckle...:rolleyes:

I am quite satisfied with the candidate from my party. She has the skills and the experience to represent us well in the world community and the executive skills to run that branch of the government. I am confident that she will nominate qualified Supreme Court justices. I'm not sure that even LBJ could maneuver through the congressional gridlock that has been developed, but one can hope. I wish she was more left leaning and more inspiring (like the current First Lady), but high levels of competence will suffice.

I find it hard to believe, however, that you really want Donald Trump to be the face of your party. I have never really questioned your intelligence, and that I why I question your allegiance to Trump. I suppose that there are forces more compelling than reason. But I prefer to not be guided by them.

Otoh, her opponent is a disgraceful braggart, liar, and unapologetic serial sexual predator. Who could possibly fail to be proud to have that as one's standard bearer?

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