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barbara 10-14-2016 09:30 AM

Accidental shootings
 
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The tragedy is that everyone thinks it won't happen to anyone they know and love.

nailer 10-14-2016 09:47 AM

Everyone needs to realize there's no such thing as an accidental shooting.

Boreas 10-14-2016 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 333385)
Everyone needs to realize there's no such thing as an accidental shooting.

A good way to foster such a realization would be an explanation of the above statement which, on it's face, would seem to be self-evidently false.

JCricket 10-14-2016 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 333385)
Everyone needs to realize there's no such thing as an accidental shooting.

say what?

sheltiedave 10-14-2016 04:37 PM

Guns do not shoot themselves.

barbara 10-14-2016 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sheltiedave (Post 333418)
Guns do not shoot themselves.



Right..... And just saying that justifies the fact that irresponsible people are allowed to have guns and innocent children kill themselves with that gun.
Guess it makes it all ok because.... Guns don't shoot themselves. 😏

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. There should be a way to minimize the damage guns do to the innocent.

donquixote99 10-14-2016 05:55 PM

Guns seldom shoot themselves, though sometimes they can go off when accidentally dropped.

Firemen worry about guns in fires because if a round is chambered in a gun, the heat can cause it to shoot with possible deadly effect. That would be an accident.

People do shoot guns without intending to. You can call that 'accidentally.'

A child getting access to a gun without that being intended can be called an accident.

Pio1980 10-14-2016 07:02 PM

The simple fact is that, minus the presence of the firearm, none of these tragedies would have occured.

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sheltiedave 10-14-2016 07:35 PM

A gun without a trigger guard is a deliberate decision.

A gun not locked in a case or rack is a deliberate choice.

A gun that has a chambered round is a deliberate choice.

All three of these deliberate choices have to be made before there can be an "accidental" shooting.

donquixote99 10-14-2016 07:52 PM

An accident is a bad thing that happens without intent that it should.

All accidents are preventable.

Boreas 10-14-2016 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sheltiedave (Post 333430)
A gun without a trigger guard is a deliberate decision.

A gun not locked in a case or rack is a deliberate choice.

A gun that has a chambered round is a deliberate choice.

All three of these deliberate choices have to be made before there can be an "accidental" shooting.

Trigger lock. A trigger guard is the loop around the trigger into which you place your finger.

And all these deliberate actions and choices don't make an inadvertent discharge into a deliberate action, merely a likely outcome.

JCricket 10-14-2016 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sheltiedave (Post 333430)
A gun without a trigger guard is a deliberate decision.

A gun not locked in a case or rack is a deliberate choice.

A gun that has a chambered round is a deliberate choice.

All three of these deliberate choices have to be made before there can be an "accidental" shooting.

Agreed, however, none of those, nor all of those combined, will cause a firearm to discharge. The discharge of the firearm requires the additional action of the firing pin to strike the primer. There are many situations where that "could" happen accidentally. Some are definitely irresponsibility, but not all. Your point of irresponsible gun ownership cannot be understated either.

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 333431)
An accident is a bad thing that happens without intent that it should.

All accidents are preventable.

Theoretically yes, realistically no. It would take an all knowing, all foreseeing individual to prevent all accidents from happening to themselves. Accidents happen so fast you do not have time to think. They can happen when you do not foresee a situation. I KNOW THIS!!!

donquixote99 10-14-2016 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JCricket (Post 333433)

Theoretically yes, realistically no. It would take an all knowing, all foreseeing individual to prevent all accidents from happening to themselves. Accidents happen so fast you do not have time to think. They can happen when you do not foresee a situation. I KNOW THIS!!!

And I do not argue that.

The attitude that all accidents are preventable is the way to maximize safety, but realistically, things will happen.

nailer 10-15-2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 333427)
The simple fact is that, minus the presence of the firearm, none of these tragedies would have occured.

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Exactly.

nailer 10-15-2016 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheltiedave (Post 333430)
A gun without a trigger guard is a deliberate decision.

A gun not locked in a case or rack is a deliberate choice.

A gun that has a chambered round is a deliberate choice.

All three of these deliberate choices have to be made before there can be an "accidental" shooting.

Precisely accurate.


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