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Boreas 08-15-2016 10:33 AM

Poetic Justice
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-co...ispute-n629156

donquixote99 08-15-2016 10:48 AM

The dead man killed another 11 years ago, just by punching him, in a road rage incident. Shows the risks of adults engaging in a fist fight. Sounds like a justified shoot under FL 'stand your ground' in this case. And yes, poetic justice.

Tom Joad 08-15-2016 10:57 AM

Sounds like a justified shoot period and Kudos to the shooter for exercising his second amendment rights to rid the world of this dirtbag.

+1 for a good guy with a gun. :)

donquixote99 08-15-2016 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 328248)
Sounds like a justified shoot period and Kudos to the shooter for exercising his second amendment rights to rid the world of this dirtbag.

+1 for a good guy with a gun. :)

Thanks, but i do not endorse the angry RW rhetoric.

Wasillaguy 08-15-2016 11:52 AM

Quote:

"They were going back and forth in a road rage incident, and the shooter reportedly had tried to avoid and evade him, and at some point, the deceased guy ended up getting in front of him and stopping in the middle of the roadway and getting out and came back and confronted him,"
If the above is true, you don't need the stand your ground law. He tried to evade, got trapped, feared for his life.
Correctly identifying the guy as a dirtbag and being glad he's gone is not angry rhetoric, it's an honest and justified commentary on the bright side of the story.

Tom Joad 08-15-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 328252)
Thanks, but i do not endorse the angry RW rhetoric.

I edited the part of my post where I quoted you in order to spare you further embarrassment. ;)

Tom Joad 08-15-2016 12:08 PM

It is for situations just like this one that I always keep a gun in my car.

Since I drive the sped limit and obey all traffic laws I often incur the wrath of other motorists that are in too damned big of a hurry to drive safely. I expect that the chances are good that one of these days one of these morons isn't going to be satisfied with just tailgating, horn blowing, light flashing and finger waving and go off on me.

On my recent trip to Canada I had to leave my guns at home. That was a bit unnerving until I got across the border.

I found the Canadian drivers to be much more courteous and patient. Even though I was a tourist who didn't always know where he was going. As soon as I crossed the border my GPS went essentially dark. Apparently it's data base for Canada is very sketchy. So, I'm sure my driving was annoying. At any rate, while I was in Canada I did not at any time feel uncomfortable without a gun. I can't quite describe it but the atmosphere is different there. My conclusion is that in Canada, at least in the Maratime provinces where I was, the number of psychopaths per 100,000 population is substantially less than it is in the US.

donquixote99 08-15-2016 12:50 PM

You are right. Canada is a more sane society than ours. I've noticed it too.

finnbow 08-15-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 328260)
On my recent trip to Canada I had to leave my guns at home. That was a bit unnerving until I got across the border...

...while I was in Canada I did not at any time feel uncomfortable without a gun. I can't quite describe it but the atmosphere is different there. My conclusion is that in Canada, at least in the Maratime provinces where I was, the number of psychopaths per 100,000 population is substantially less than it is in the US.

The number in Canada went up slightly while you were there, while it went down slightly in the US.:p

68custom 08-15-2016 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 328260)
I found the Canadian drivers to be much more courteous and patient. Even though I was a tourist who didn't always know where he was going. As soon as I crossed the border my GPS went essentially dark. Apparently it's data base for Canada is very sketchy. So, I'm sure my driving was annoying. At any rate, while I was in Canada I did not at any time feel uncomfortable without a gun. I can't quite describe it but the atmosphere is different there. My conclusion is that in Canada, at least in the Maratime provinces where I was, the number of psychopaths per 100,000 population is substantially less than it is in the US.

thats odd the last time I was up there in Toronto mine worked fine as long as you had the right zip.
Ironic that the guy died the same way he killed. :(

bobabode 08-15-2016 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 328276)
The number in Canada went up slightly while you were there, while it went down slightly in the US.:p

Heh, I'm glad he's staying out of California. ;)

Wasillaguy 08-15-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 68custom (Post 328278)
thats odd the last time I was up there in Toronto mine worked fine as long as you had the right zip.
Ironic that the guy died the same way he killed. :(

Not really ironic at all. To be expected. He obviously didn't learn a damn thing from killing a man, because his behavior continued unchanged.

donquixote99 08-15-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 328256)
If the above is true, you don't need the stand your ground law. He tried to evade, got trapped, feared for his life.
Correctly identifying the guy as a dirtbag and being glad he's gone is not angry rhetoric, it's an honest and justified commentary on the bright side of the story.

Well, that's a way we differ, WG. It doesn't seem right to me to be glad of the violent death of another person,* however it may have been necessary and even desirable in the circumstances.


* dirtbag considered a hateful term

bobabode 08-15-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 328245)

Figgers that it was a Floridian. Is it too late to give it back to the Spanish?

Wasillaguy 08-15-2016 04:08 PM

Dirtbag is a hateful term only in the sense that it accurately describes a hateful man, who died from his own hate.

donquixote99 08-15-2016 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 328288)
Dirtbag is a hateful term only in the sense that it feels good to me to so describe a hateful man, who died from his own hate.

Edited for accuracy.

Boreas 08-15-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 328288)
Dirtbag is a hateful term only in the sense that it accurately describes a hateful man, who died from his own hate.

The term dirtbag doesn't address hate at all except in so far as it reflects the hate-filled state of mind of a person who chooses to apply it to another person.

Wasillaguy 08-15-2016 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 328291)
The term dirtbag doesn't address hate at all except in so far as it reflects the hate-filled state of mind of a person who chooses to apply it to another person.

The most common dictionary definition is a filthy or contemptible person.
Dictionary.com says it's slang, but not that those who use it are hateful.
Merriam-Webster doesn't even say it's slang, and makes no mention of those who use it as hateful. Looks like it's a garden variety word to me.

So, unless this guy is not accurately described as contemptible, I don't see how it's hateful. He punched a guy so hard he killed him, over a traffic dispute. He then continued the same behavior, apparently unrepentent for his deeds. Is that not contemptible?
The guy was a dirtbag. A piece of shit. A low life scum bag murdering rageaholic asshole. And now he's none of those things, and that's good.

CarlV 08-15-2016 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 328280)
Heh, I'm glad he's staying out of California. ;)

+1




Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 328286)
Figgers that it was a Floridian. Is it too late to give it back to the Spanish?

And Texas too. :)


Carl

Tom Joad 08-16-2016 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68custom (Post 328278)
thats odd the last time I was up there in Toronto mine worked fine as long as you had the right zip.(

Mine's a Garmin Nuvi 50.

It apparently has a decent database for Ontario, but not so much for Nova Scotia.

Tom Joad 08-16-2016 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 328266)
You are right. Canada is a more sane society than ours. I've noticed it too.

It is isn't it?

I may consider relocating there if Clinton is elected.

donquixote99 08-16-2016 08:30 AM

Please do.

finnbow 08-16-2016 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 328332)
Please do.

They wouldn't want such a nihilist/anarchist in their midst.

bobabode 08-16-2016 09:12 AM

Adios, buckaroo.

donquixote99 08-16-2016 09:22 AM

Oh dear. We've all ganged up on him proper now. I must raise the whining threat condition to 'severe.'

nailer 08-16-2016 09:26 AM

How hostile of you.

CarlV 08-16-2016 09:30 PM

I thought Canada was going to build a wall on the border and make Trump pay for it. :)

Carl

Rajoo 08-16-2016 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlV (Post 328390)
I thought Canada was going to build a wall on the border and make Trump pay for it. :)

Carl

Good one Carl. :D


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