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sheltiedave 07-31-2016 08:22 AM

Trump's path through the College
 
No matter how we slice and dice things on a national scale, Trump has a very tortured path to win enough electoral votes to be come president. He is so caustic and mindlessly uncaring that he has guaranteed he will not carry states with a significant minority Hispanic population, black population, and now he is working on alienating veterans' families and women voters.

The long and short of it is analysts are saying he needs to sweep the critical trifecta of Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, with their large cache of electoral votes, a conservative swing population, and a receptive bloc of angry white voters. Michigan is a step behind, but these three are critical for him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us...race.html?_r=0

Oerets 07-31-2016 08:45 AM

Bookmark this one...http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...tion-forecast/



Barney

Rajoo 07-31-2016 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 326334)

If the above poll is accurate and the Democratic Party's only message is that the Trump presidency will be a disaster, Hillary could lose. So far that's all I hear and that is dangerous.

Tom Joad 07-31-2016 10:25 AM

I have faith that The Big Orange Man will save us from The Wicked Hildebeast.

donquixote99 07-31-2016 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 326341)
If the above poll is accurate and the Democratic Party's only message is that the Trump presidency will be a disaster, Hillary could lose. So far that's all I hear and that is dangerous.

Here's something else. Never mentions Trump once. Whether you'll be able to 'hear' it is the question, though....

The four policy reasons why I support Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Primary.

Rajoo 07-31-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 326349)
Here's something else. Never mentions Trump once. Whether you'll be able to 'hear' it is the question, though....

The four policy reasons why I support Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Primary.

You want me to read now why some individual voted for Hillary instead for Bernie in the primaries? Here is one paragraph that sounds like an advertisement copy.
Quote:

First, Clinton’s policy proposals generally push at the boundaries of what is possible, whereas Sanders’s policy proposals generally ignore those boundaries entirely, assuming they don’t exist or can be somehow bypassed. I can understand the appeal in the Sanders approach. The boundaries of the policy debate are often regressive and arbitrary, and it feels as if we’ve been pushing on them forever with only intermittent success. And especially after seven years of constantly leaning our shoulders into the fight to win every inch we can, I can understand why we might be tempted to take a running leap of faith instead.
Ah the status quo approach to hope and change. :rolleyes:

Pio1980 07-31-2016 11:15 AM

Good one, Don Q!

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noonereal 07-31-2016 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 326342)
I have faith that The Big Orange Man will save us from The Wicked Hildebeast.

:D


one heck of a choice we got there

Tom Joad 07-31-2016 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 326351)
You want me to read now why some individual voted for Hillary instead for Bernie in the primaries? Here is one paragraph that sounds like an advertisement copy.


Ah the status quo approach to hope and change. :rolleyes:

I got as far as "generally push at the boundaries of what is possible" :rolleyes:

Rajoo 07-31-2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 326358)
I got as far as "generally push at the boundaries of what is possible" :rolleyes:

I did not see the relevance for the post nor the link, but it's early for me and still on my first cup of coffee. But it did receive a complement and now I am scratching my head a bit.

The real intent here on this forum from some is that "if you don't support Hillary, you don't know what's good for the country or you are downright stupid". Maybe so, but then I always consider the source. ;)

BlueStreak 07-31-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 326341)
If the above poll is accurate and the Democratic Party's only message is that the Trump presidency will be a disaster, Hillary could lose. So far that's all I hear and that is dangerous.

Because a whole lot of people believe Hillary will be just as, if not more disastrous.

BlueStreak 07-31-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 326342)
I have faith that The Big Orange Man will save us from The Wicked Hildebeast.

Who saves us from the Orangutan?

Boreas 07-31-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 326374)
Who saves us from the Orangutan?

Caesar.
http://static.srcdn.com/slir/w620-h3...al-Trailer.jpg

donquixote99 07-31-2016 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 326375)

You think you're joking.

noonereal 08-01-2016 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 326375)

You are a horrible racist. (snark, hate, arrogance)

It's clear that using a monkey you are intimating Obie coming to the rescue of Hillary to save us from the orange man.

Now that you have shown your horrible nature I demand to know how you defend you position that all blacks are inferior.

(see, I can post as you do also!):)

sheltiedave 08-01-2016 08:15 AM

Folks, this thread is about how the election tips based on the individual states and their electoral votes. Please post the fluff in other threads, no matter how hairy.

bobabode 08-01-2016 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheltiedave (Post 326332)
No matter how we slice and dice things on a national scale, Trump has a very tortured path to win enough electoral votes to be come president. He is so caustic and mindlessly uncaring that he has guaranteed he will not carry states with a significant minority Hispanic population, black population, and now he is working on alienating veterans' families and women voters.

The long and short of it is analysts are saying he needs to sweep the critical trifecta of Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, with their large cache of electoral votes, a conservative swing population, and a receptive bloc of angry white voters. Michigan is a step behind, but these three are critical for him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us...race.html?_r=0

While Trump is doing this, Hillary is hitting the road in her big blue bus and fighting in Nebraska which hasn't seen a Democratic presidential candidate on the ground since Roosevelt in '36.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...mepage%2Fstory

whell 08-01-2016 09:53 AM

Another potential wild-card in this election may be the appeal of 3rd party candidates to those who can't stomach either Trump or Clinton:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...upport-surging

bobabode 08-01-2016 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 326448)
Another potential wild-card in this election may be the appeal of 3rd party candidates to those who can't stomach either Trump or Clinton:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...upport-surging

"The biggest beneficiary has been Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson, who has shot up from 4.5 percent to 7.2 percent in RealClearPolitics polling averages. Green Party candidate Jill Stein has also seen an uptick since June — from 2.5 percent to 3.5 percent." The Hill

Since the Libertarians pull from Republicans, I'm good with it. :)

Rajoo 08-01-2016 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 326448)
Another potential wild-card in this election may be the appeal of 3rd party candidates to those who can't stomach either Trump or Clinton:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...upport-surging

Unless we go into 100% vote by mail or internet, victory by a third party candidate is an impossibility. Look what happened with Bernie and with a 3rd party candidate, both parties will ganging up. Then there is the matter of media restricting access and how that will play out.

whell 08-01-2016 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 326449)
"The biggest beneficiary has been Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson, who has shot up from 4.5 percent to 7.2 percent in RealClearPolitics polling averages. Green Party candidate Jill Stein has also seen an uptick since June — from 2.5 percent to 3.5 percent." The Hill

Since the Libertarians pull from Republicans, I'm good with it. :)

Maybe, maybe not. From the article:

But the numbers are far from cut-and-dry. Quinnipiac’s recent batch of swing state polls found that Trump’s standing in the race against Clinton improved slightly when all four candidates were included.

whell 08-01-2016 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 326450)
Unless we go into 100% vote by mail or internet, victory by a third party candidate is an impossibility. Look what happened with Bernie and with a 3rd party candidate, both parties will ganging up. Then there is the matter of media restricting access and how that will play out.

Its not really about victory for a 3rd party candidate. Its more about how votes for a 3rd party candidate could tip the scales one way or another for the two major candidates in close state races.

Pio1980 08-01-2016 10:31 AM

Progressives may feel held hostage against the prospect of a TrumPence victory, this limits options making a statement against "the machine" vs certain disaster for their ideals with an inexperienced undisciplined egotistical authoritarian manchild and a hard right uncompromised dogmatic partisan as the likely result of diluted opposition.

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noonereal 08-01-2016 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 326449)
"The biggest beneficiary has been Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson, who has shot up from 4.5 percent to 7.2 percent in RealClearPolitics polling averages. Green Party candidate Jill Stein has also seen an uptick since June — from 2.5 percent to 3.5 percent." The Hill

Since the Libertarians pull from Republicans, I'm good with it. :)

Is this all we have on the ballot Bob? These 4?

What about Rent Is Too Damn High party?
Maybe McMillan will clime the Washington monument this time then allow himself to be tared and feathered.

I think he'd get several % just as a backlash vote. Not sure wjich candidate he would hurt though.

bobabode 08-01-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 326458)
Is this all we have on the ballot Bob? These 4?

What about Rent Is Too Damn High party?
Maybe McMillan will clime the Washington monument this time then allow himself to be tared and feathered.

I think he'd get several % just as a backlash vote. Not sure wjich candidate he would hurt though.

I don't know which McMillan you're talking about but in the presidential race it's between a vulgar talking yam who's wife made the cover of the NY Post in her birthday suit and a policy wonk Wellesley graduate.

The Greenies are irrelevant and their leader is a nut doing a Harrold Stassen, imo.

Rajoo 08-01-2016 11:19 AM

To cut through all the BS, this election is between a billionaire and a multi-millionaire. :)

Boreas 08-01-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 326463)
I don't know which McMillan you're talking about but in the presidential race it's between a vulgar talking yam who's wife made the cover of the NY Post in her birthday suit and a policy wonk Wellesley graduate.

The Greenies are irrelevant and their leader is a nut doing a Harrold Stassen, imo.

This one.

http://www.nystateofpolitics.com/fil...2/mcmillan.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_I...amn_High_Party

noonereal 08-01-2016 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 326464)
To cut through all the BS, this election is between a billionaire and a multi-millionaire. :)

just like war's, it's always about economics ;)

noonereal 08-01-2016 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 326463)
I don't know which McMillan you're talking about .

John is correct.

nailer 08-02-2016 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 326464)
To cut through all the BS, this election is between a billionaire and a multi-millionaire. :)

Everyone knows that on average billionaires are worse than millionaires. :)

Seriously though, we're a one party state with two wings.


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