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Wasillaguy 07-28-2016 03:30 PM

Xenophobes beat West African immigrant
 
What is it with these people who hate just becuase someone comes from another part of the world?

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...vicious-attack

Boreas 07-28-2016 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 325773)
What is it with these people who hate just becuase someone comes from another part of the world?

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...vicious-attack

You know that the attack was motivated by Xenophobia do you?

Wasillaguy 07-28-2016 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 325774)
You know that the attack was motivated by Xenophobia do you?

Well no, I just made the assumption since there's so much xenophobia in this country, and there was no other obvious motive.
Why do you ask? You have a different theory?

whell 07-28-2016 04:10 PM

There's so much sickness in this story / video. First, of course, you have the attack itself. I tend to agree with Was. I suspect the attackers knew who this guy was, and what his route was. Don't know if it was "xenophobia", but I suspect they thought the guy might be an easy target. More often than not, stuff like this isn't spontaneous. It's planned.

Then you've got this:

During the Facebook Live video, as the beating continues, no one tries to help. A man walks past Bah, who is lying on the ground injured, but he never stops to help.

What the hell is wrong with people? At least try to scare the attackers away by telling them the police are coming, or something.

Third, what kind of asshole sees something like this, and decides that his cell phone is better used as a video camera and not a communication device that can be used to call the cops? How can anyone watch something like this and be content to do nothing except film it.

I don't understand how people think anymore....

whell 07-28-2016 04:12 PM

Syrian Refugee Love
 
Yup, Hillary, we need to increase the number of Syrian refugees coming in. :rolleyes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-love-her.html

Wasillaguy 07-28-2016 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 325780)
There's so much sickness in this story / video. First, of course, you have the attack itself. I tend to agree with Was. I suspect the attackers knew who this guy was, and what his route was. Don't know if it was "xenophobia", but I suspect they thought the guy might be an easy target. More often than not, stuff like this isn't spontaneous. It's planned.

Then you've got this:

During the Facebook Live video, as the beating continues, no one tries to help. A man walks past Bah, who is lying on the ground injured, but he never stops to help.

What the hell is wrong with people? At least try to scare the attackers away by telling them the police are coming, or something.

Third, what kind of asshole sees something like this, and decides that his cell phone is better used as a video camera and not a communication device that can be used to call the cops? How can anyone watch something like this and be content to do nothing except film it.

I don't understand how people think anymore....

I don't know, that's quite a leap to assume they did it just because he was an easy target. To get there, you have to assume that none of these kids have any empathy or ethics. That they don't care a lick for their fellow man. I have a hard time believing they weren't motivated by some perceived injustice.

barbara 07-28-2016 04:23 PM

Victims of crime are often picked because they are an easy target. If you were going to mug someone would it be the buff young man leaving the gym or the little old lady fumbling with packages in Macy's parking lot?

Picking an easy target doesn't negate the possibility that the attack was motivated by the ethnic background of the victim.

Both things could have been instrumental in the motivation.

We can only speculate.

Boreas 07-28-2016 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 325776)
Well no, I just made the assumption since there's so much xenophobia in this country, and there was no other obvious motive.
Why do you ask? You have a different theory?

I have no theory and won't until there is evidence to support one. As for an obvious motive, the attackers took his money so a motive of robbery isn't entirely out of the question.

Boreas 07-28-2016 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 325781)
Yup, Hillary, we need to increase the number of Syrian refugees coming in. :rolleyes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-love-her.html

Nice segue, asshole!

d-ray657 07-28-2016 04:43 PM

I can guess at the motive behind starting this thread and choosing the title.

whell 07-28-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 325788)
Nice segue, asshole!

I do it all for you, needle dick.

Boreas 07-28-2016 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 325238)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ight/87518168/

I hear the argument that domestic problems are just as severe as Islamic radicals, yet nobody is talking about the latest major nightclub shooting in Florida. 2 dead and 14 wounded after a bunch of parents thought it was a good idea to let their minor children go out "clubbing".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 325773)
What is it with these people who hate just becuase someone comes from another part of the world?

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...vicious-attack

Why don't you go somewhere where people don't see right through you. And take whell with you.

BlueStreak 07-29-2016 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 325790)
I can guess at the motive behind starting this thread and choosing the title.

Yeah, there's a hook in that worm. I'll pass.

JJIII 07-29-2016 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 325783)
Victims of crime are often picked because they are an easy target. If you were going to mug someone would it be the buff young man leaving the gym or the little old lady fumbling with packages in Macy's parking lot?

Picking an easy target doesn't negate the possibility that the attack was motivated by the ethnic background of the victim.

Both things could have been instrumental in the motivation.

We can only speculate.

Exactly.

Wasillaguy 07-29-2016 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbara (Post 325783)
Victims of crime are often picked because they are an easy target. If you were going to mug someone would it be the buff young man leaving the gym or the little old lady fumbling with packages in Macy's parking lot?

Picking an easy target doesn't negate the possibility that the attack was motivated by the ethnic background of the victim.

Both things could have been instrumental in the motivation.

We can only speculate.

Did you watch that video Barbara? There was about 5 of them. They didn't need to beat the hell out of the guy to get the cash. They wanted to hurt him, not just rob him. They continued beating him well after they had the money.

Boreas 07-29-2016 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 326030)
Did you watch that video Barbara? There was about 5 of them. They didn't need to beat the hell out of the guy to get the cash. They wanted to hurt him, not just rob him. They continued beating him well after they had the money.

That's just the way "those people" are, Was. Has it occurred to you that you're doing the same thing you criticized whell for yesterday?

barbara 07-29-2016 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 326030)
Did you watch that video Barbara? There was about 5 of them. They didn't need to beat the hell out of the guy to get the cash. They wanted to hurt him, not just rob him. They continued beating him well after they had the money.



Did you read my response?


Both motivators, easy target and ethnic background, could have been the motivation.

We can only speculate.

Wasillaguy 07-29-2016 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 326032)
That's just the way "those people" are, Was. Has it occurred to you that you're doing the same thing you criticized whell for yesterday?

I disagree. My criticism of Whell was that he jumped to the conclusion that they beat this guy simply because he was an easy target. Implying they beat him for the fun of it. That's not at all what I'm saying.
I'm saying I don't think robbery was the only motivating factor, since simple robbery didn't require beating the guy to a pulp. I think they were motivated either by xenophobia or some other perceived injustice.

Pio1980 07-29-2016 02:11 PM

Dunno what happened or why here, I still want accountability for the North Alabama LEO jerkoff that threw a visiting Foreigner to the sidewalk and permenently disabled him. He got away with it.


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Pio1980 07-29-2016 02:25 PM

Got the vid to download, looks like mindless agressive street gang stuff that shames the community.
Hopefully, the perp will be brought to accountability by those unafraid to make their community safe, if they can.
Meanwhile, the driver deserves a GFM assist.


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Boreas 07-29-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 326060)
Got the vid to download, looks like mindless agressive street gang stuff that shames the community.
Hopefully, the perp will be brought to accountability by those unafraid to make their community safe, if they can.
Meanwhile, the driver deserves a GFM assist.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcbQ1RIStus

Pio1980 07-29-2016 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 326063)

Haven't seen ACO, Burgess' dystopian tales are certainly disturbing on the page.

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Boreas 07-29-2016 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 326064)
Haven't seen ACO, Burgess' dystopian tales are certainly disturbing on the page.

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In fact, I think that A Clockwork Orange, the book, was more disturbing than the movie.

Wasillaguy 07-29-2016 03:19 PM

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"I've never seen them before, I don't know. I need to know why they wanted to kill me," said Mamadou Bah.
http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...ten-and-robbed

I'm apparently not the only one interested in the motive. Shall we denigrate Mr. Bah for asking?

Almost as disturbing as the incident itself, is the attitude of some that this is just plain old street fun. There's a reason people act violently, and I don't see how immediately writing it off as par for the course helps us on a path to any kind of resolution.

Pio1980 07-29-2016 03:40 PM

I don't see xenophobia as a motive, quite the opposite. He looks like an easy mark, the rest aside from robbery was wanton violent assault.

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merrylander 07-29-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 326075)
I don't see xenophobia as a motive, quite the opposite. He looks like an easy mark, the rest aside from robbery was wanton violent assault.

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You are probably right as we see young people, men or women beating up on some poor individual here seeming just for the hell of it.

Pio1980 07-29-2016 03:58 PM

This is why I CC as I look like an easy mark when my arthritis acts up. The last time I thought about it was last week, when a car full of young bubbas flipped me off for no good reason.
First time I recall being flipped off in 25 years, this time I was on the motorcycle. Go figure.

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Wasillaguy 07-29-2016 04:00 PM

I find the concept of violence for entertainment revolting, if indeed that's what this is. I would hope that when judges sentence these "no motive" crimes, they make sure these people are locked away for the maximum allowable, and that psych treatment is involved. There is simply nothing more depraved than harming the innocent and vulnerable, especially in swarms.

Pio1980 07-29-2016 04:01 PM

Was', does the driver have a GFM yet?

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Wasillaguy 07-29-2016 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 326087)
Was', does the driver have a GFM?

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There's about 27 definitions that pop up for the acronym GFM, but the most relevent would be Go Fund Me, so I'll assume that's what you were asking.

The last link I posted does say there's a Go Fund Me set up by his family.

Pio1980 07-29-2016 04:09 PM

Good, then. That's something. I hope the neighborhood ponies up some IDs, but I imagine the intimidation factor makes things more difficult.

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sheltiedave 07-29-2016 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 326086)
I find the concept of violence for entertainment revolting, if indeed that's what this is. I would hope that when judges sentence these "no motive" crimes, they make sure these people are locked away for the maximum allowable, and that psych treatment is involved. There is simply nothing more depraved than harming the innocent and vulnerable, especially in swarms.

Hopefully you can apply this to the Republican Party voting en masse to reduce the food stamp program, educational programs, school lunch programs, unemployment benefits, et al. There is nothing more depraved than harming innocent and vulnerable kids.

Pio1980 07-29-2016 08:05 PM

http://m.fox19.com/fox19/pm_/content...id=od:2AnVT0my

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Pio1980 07-29-2016 08:15 PM

http://www.cbs46.com/story/32570244/...m-truck-driver

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Wasillaguy 07-29-2016 09:15 PM

I'm sure Dontevious will talk rather than take the rap since he was apparently just the getaway driver.
He was dumb enough to keep evidence at his domicile though, so who knows.

Pio1980 07-29-2016 09:16 PM

Left holding the bag, as it were. So it starts, and they know the car and have the plate number.
It's an awful story that deserves updating and eventual accounting.

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Pio1980 08-02-2016 07:12 PM

http://www.newschannel5.com/news/loc...ten-2-arrested

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Wasillaguy 08-03-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 326712)
http://www.newschannel5.com/news/loc...ten-2-arrested

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So Dontevious was the getaway driver, and Dontavious was swinging the bat.
I assume that leaves Dontivious, Dontovious, and Dontuvious still on the lam.

Boreas 08-03-2016 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 326779)
So Dontevious was the getaway driver, and Dontavious was swinging the bat.
I assume that leaves Dontivious, Dontovious, and Dontuvious still on the lam.

I've sussed out your plan at last. It's to bore us all with your racist posts and thereby condition all of us to regard racism and racists as merely boring and not hate-filled, dangerous and disgusting.

Wasillaguy 08-03-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 326845)
I've sussed out your plan at last. It's to bore us all with your racist posts and thereby condition all of us to regard racism and racists as merely boring and not hate-filled, dangerous and disgusting.

Darn, you caught me in the old "replace the vowel" racism trick. I'm busted.

On another note, I did see the article mentions a "witness" who gave up the one swinging the bat. Not clear whether the "witness" was the driver trying to save his own ass, or a bystander.


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