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Wasillaguy 07-26-2016 11:44 AM

Priest beheaded in France
 
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/150339...by-terrorists/

ISIS beheads a priest in France, and not one major news org has picked up the story yet.

Pio1980 07-26-2016 11:45 AM

Wrong, it's everywhere.

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finnbow 07-26-2016 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 325229)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/150339...by-terrorists/

ISIS beheads a priest in France, and not one major news org has picked up the story yet.

Yeh, you're right. They all have. Google News shows that 627 English language sources the world around have a story on it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/wo...-hostages.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fr...-idUSKCN1060VA

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ar...eports-n616801

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36892785

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c39_story.html

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...laimed-by-isis

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...726-story.html

nailer 07-26-2016 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 325229)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/150339...by-terrorists/

ISIS beheads a priest in France, and not one major news org has picked up the story yet.

Not according to a google.

Wasillaguy 07-26-2016 11:54 AM

CNN 30 min ago
Fox 1 hr ago

BBC 3 hrs ago

UK Sun 8 hrs ago
Daily Mail 8 hrs ago
Jihad Watch 10 hrs ago

Wasillaguy 07-26-2016 11:57 AM

Ok, so I did a bad search at first. I was trying "Hamel beheaded", but I guess most new orgs don't want to say "beheaded". They candy coat it down to "killed" so the sheep won't get too excited.

Pio1980 07-26-2016 12:14 PM

Google can be helpful or pedantic, the response does depend on how and when the query is formed.


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Pio1980 07-26-2016 12:19 PM

This is another lone wolf act by a wanna-be jihadist.
It shows how hard it is to detect or prevent this at the bloody end of the thing.


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Wasillaguy 07-26-2016 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 325250)
This is another lone wolf act by a wanna-be jihadist.
It shows how hard it is to detect or prevent this at the bloody end of the thing.


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He's not a wanna-be jihadist any more. Now he are one. He done qualified.
They're also not lone wolves when they all declare their acts are done for the same reason. That's pack mentality, and all the wolves feast on the carcass.

One thing you got right, it's very hard to prevent after it's over. Brilliant.

Pio1980 07-26-2016 12:30 PM

It's hard to prevent once the seed is planted, that's my point. Neutralizing the threat before it germinates is the answer.

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whell 07-26-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 325250)
This is another lone wolf act by a wanna-be jihadist.
It shows how hard it is to detect or prevent this at the bloody end of the thing.


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Nope, two guys. Also this:

The astonishing revelation – made on French news channel I-Tele – claims one of the terrorists lived close to the church and fled to Syria in 2015 to join the Islamic State, but was arrested in Turkey.

He was jailed for terrorist offences following a short trial in France, before being released on March 2 this year.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/150339...by-terrorists/

The church was also reportedly on an ISIS "hit list".

So the French had him in jail, let him out a few months ago, and then this.

whell 07-26-2016 01:39 PM

The ISIS terrorists who carried out the France church attack forced an elderly parish priest to kneel before filming themselves slitting his throat, it has emerged.

Father Jacques Hamel, 84, was made to get to his knees before he was brutally butchered at the Church of the Gambetta in Normandy today, says a nun who escaped the attack.

His two murderers captured the slaying on a mobile phone, according to Sister Danielle, who was one of several worshippers taken hostage during morning mass.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...priest-8497681

Wasillaguy 07-26-2016 01:43 PM

Glad I went to Europe when I did, it's toast now.

merrylander 07-26-2016 02:10 PM

According to the latest news his throat was cut, it did not say beheaded.

finnbow 07-26-2016 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 325275)
The ISIS terrorists who carried out the France church attack forced an elderly parish priest to kneel before filming themselves slitting his throat, it has emerged.

Father Jacques Hamel, 84, was made to get to his knees before he was brutally butchered at the Church of the Gambetta in Normandy today, says a nun who escaped the attack.

His two murderers captured the slaying on a mobile phone, according to Sister Danielle, who was one of several worshippers taken hostage during morning mass.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...priest-8497681

Thankfully, der Trumpenfuhrer will protect us all from this madness.

donquixote99 07-26-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 325287)
According to the latest news his throat was cut, it did not say beheaded.

And a mere cut throat was not bloody enough? They had to sex up the story?

bobabode 07-26-2016 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 325291)
And a mere cut throat was not bloody enough? They had to sex up the story?

Tabloid journalism courtesy of Rupert Murdoch.

Pio1980 07-26-2016 02:44 PM

So I stand corrected on the lone wolf scenario initial reports presented.
The French are definitely on the spot handling their relationship with Muslims, inside and outside France.


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Oerets 07-26-2016 02:57 PM

Was, You were probably asleep when I was listening to NPR or BBC America in the truck this morning and they broke the news. Guessing ~ 0930 time period.


Barney

modge 07-26-2016 04:00 PM

It will never be neutralized. To cut a long story short I was told by a muslim that it is written in the Koran that muslims will rule the world.

Pio1980 07-26-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by modge (Post 325310)
It will never be neutralized. To cut a long story short I was told by a muslim that it is written in the Koran that muslims will rule the world.

So I've heard, also from some Christians of theirs.
Neither speaks for all.

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whell 07-26-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 325290)
Thankfully, der Trumpenfuhrer will protect us all from this madness.

Thankfully, we have people like you who will politicize the killing of a priest.

donquixote99 07-26-2016 05:21 PM

^^^You know, I really hate shameless crap just like that.

finnbow 07-26-2016 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 325345)
Thankfully, we have people like you who will politicize the killing of a priest.

Trump has made such events the centerpiece of his campaign.

Boreas 07-26-2016 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by modge (Post 325310)
It will never be neutralized. To cut a long story short I was told by a muslim that it is written in the Koran that muslims will rule the world.

Just like the German who told you that World War II, Hitler and the Holocaust aren't taught in German schools?

Pio1980 07-26-2016 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 325345)
Thankfully, we have people like you who will politicize the killing of a priest.

And this thread has been about, what?

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Wasillaguy 07-26-2016 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 325359)
And this thread has been about, what?

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whell 07-26-2016 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 325357)
Trump has made such events the centerpiece of his campaign.

So, its official: by your own admission, you're no better than Trump.

bobabode 07-26-2016 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 325372)
So, its official: by your own admission, you're no better than Trump.

Yaaaawn. :rolleyes: That's some weak sauce you've got there, Mike.

donquixote99 07-26-2016 05:59 PM

OK. All heads up. What's policy to be then? Hate and kill for God and Country?

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d-ray657 07-26-2016 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 325345)
Thankfully, we have people like you who will politicize the killing of a priest.

There you go being duplicitous again. I recall you calling for extermination of some subset of Muslims on these very pages. It was in response to an attack in Germany. In so doing you were adopting the rhetoric of the very politician you now claim should not be mentioned.

Oh, by the way, the name of this website is Political Chat. You have had very little problem making political hay out of any story that you learn about (from whatever source provides your talking points). It is ridiculous for you to now complain about someone making a political point out of an issue that will most certainly be addressed by dozens of politicians.

finnbow 07-26-2016 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 325372)
So, its official: by your own admission, you're no better than Trump.

Spare me. Trump's entire platform focuses on him being the only person in the country who can magically solve all security problems on the day of his inauguration (his actual words). Accordingly, his whole schtick is to paint an apocalyptic picture, something the OP was equally willing to do. I'm not the guy politicizing this, though this would be exactly the place to do so.

modge 07-26-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 325358)
Just like the German who told you that World War II, Hitler and the Holocaust aren't taught in German schools?

No that wasn't him I read it. But to continue what I did say it is illegal to sing or broadcast songs from the second world war. and the other little bit you missed out about me sending him a link frorm you tube he said was garbled. Google it as usual.

Boreas 07-26-2016 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by modge (Post 325401)
No that wasn't him I read it. But to continue what I did say it is illegal to sing or broadcast songs from the second world war. and the other little bit you missed out about me sending him a link frorm you tube he said was garbled. Google it as usual.

There are laws in Germany that prohibit many things associated with the Nazi era, like the display of the swastika or the publication of Mein Kampf (except for the annotated edition recently published) but that doesn't mean that German students aren't taught the subject in school. They are.

donquixote99 07-26-2016 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by modge (Post 325401)
No that wasn't him I read it. But to continue what I did say it is illegal to sing or broadcast songs from the second world war. and the other little bit you missed out about me sending him a link frorm you tube he said was garbled. Google it as usual.

You mean the songs that are full of Nazi stuff? I can see them having some issues there. Can't you?

That Nazi stuff really messed everybody up, one way or another, in that place....

modge 07-26-2016 08:15 PM

If a song is about being proud of your country without mentioning Hitler or nazism is banned something is wrong in my opinion.

Boreas 07-26-2016 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by modge (Post 325412)
If a song is about being proud of your country without mentioning Hitler or nazism is banned something is wrong in my opinion.

Can you tell us the name of the song in question? Was it perhaps the Horst Wessel Song? That was the official Nazi anthem and the co-national anthem along with Deutchland Uber Alles during the Nazi period. It's banned in Germany on that account. It doesn't mention the Nazis or Hitler.

modge 07-26-2016 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 325424)
Can you tell us the name of the song in question? Was it perhaps the Horst Wessel Song? That was the official Nazi anthem and the co-national anthem along with Deutchland Uber Alles during the Nazi period. It's banned in Germany on that account. It doesn't mention the Nazis or Hitler.

So if it doesn't mention Hitler or the nazis it should be banned. Pathetic. You cant sing about your own country and be proud.That is exactly what I'm saying.

Boreas 07-26-2016 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by modge (Post 325429)
So if it doesn't mention Hitler or the nazis it should be banned. Pathetic. You cant sing about your own country and be proud.That is exactly what I'm saying.

It was the Nazi national anthem for fuck's sake.

The flag on high! The ranks tightly closed!
The SA marches with quiet, steady step.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries
March in spirit within our ranks.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries
March in spirit within our ranks.

Clear the streets for the brown battalions,
Clear the streets for the storm division!
Millions are looking upon the swastika full of hope,
The day of freedom and of bread dawns!
Millions are looking upon the swastika full of hope,
The day of freedom and of bread dawns!

For the last time, the call to arms is sounded!
For the fight, we all stand prepared!
Already Hitler's banners fly over all streets.
The time of bondage will last but a little while now!
Already Hitler's banners fly over all streets.
The time of bondage will last but a little while now.

The flag on high! The ranks tightly closed!
The SA march with quiet, steady step.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries,
March in spirit within our ranks.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries,
March in spirit within our ranks.

donquixote99 07-26-2016 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modge (Post 325412)
If a song is about being proud of your country without mentioning Hitler or nazism is banned something is wrong in my opinion.

I don't know German, let alone what may be 'between the lines' given the history. I'm sure we should leave it up to them.

You wouldn't want the Germans telling you how to run your country, or so I definitely thought....


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