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whell 07-25-2016 09:36 AM

DNC Reviewing Stories on Politico before Publication?
 
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808

Thanks to the Wikileaks email treasure trove, it can no longer be claimed that this kind of crap doesn't happen. I think this takes care of any lingering doubts about lack of objectivity in the media.

whell 07-25-2016 09:37 AM

...or feeding Jake Tapper interview questions to ask...

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077

bobabode 07-25-2016 09:47 AM

Anything to deflect from the shitshow your party has turned into, eh Whell? :rolleyes:

finnbow 07-25-2016 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 324866)
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808

Thanks to the Wikileaks email treasure trove, it can no longer be claimed that this kind of crap doesn't happen. I think this takes care of any lingering doubts about lack of objectivity in the media.

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 324867)
...or feeding Jake Tapper interview questions to ask...

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077

That would never happen between Fox News and the RNC. Never. Ever.:rolleyes:

whell 07-25-2016 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 324869)
Anything to deflect from the shitshow your party has turned into, eh Whell? :rolleyes:

No, this post of yours is the deflection.

whell 07-25-2016 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 324874)
That would never happen between Fox News and the RNC. Never. Ever.:rolleyes:

Post the evidence.

Boreas 07-25-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 324869)
Anything to deflect from the shitshow your party has turned into, eh Whell? :rolleyes:

These things aren't as easy to dismiss as you'd like to believe, Bob.

icenine 07-25-2016 10:45 AM

If I did not know better I would think you have Turrets Syndrome Whell since every other word you type is "deflection." In fact I have heard a rumor that in Detroit there is a certain Human Resources guy who greets his co-workers every morning with a hearty " Good Deflection Morning"!

Boreas 07-25-2016 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 324886)
If I did not know better I would think you have Turrets Syndrome Whell since every other word you type is "deflection." In fact I have heard a rumor that in Detroit there is a certain Human Resources guy who greets his co-workers every morning with a hearty " Good Deflection Morning"!

Now, there's a cogent and thoughtful response.

finnbow 07-25-2016 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 324880)
Post the evidence.

Roger Ailes

whell 07-25-2016 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 324886)
If I did not know better I would think you have Turrets Syndrome Whell since every other word you type is "deflection." In fact I have heard a rumor that in Detroit there is a certain Human Resources guy who greets his co-workers every morning with a hearty " Good Deflection Morning"!

If you guys could find a way to address the substance of the post, you might get a different response. Trying to change the subject - like this post tries to do - is just another example of deflec....

...oh, never mind.

whell 07-25-2016 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 324890)
Roger Ailes

Lame. Strike one.

Boreas 07-25-2016 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 324893)
Lame. Strike one.

Armstrong Williams.

bobabode 07-25-2016 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324884)
These things aren't as easy to dismiss as you'd like to believe, Bob.

Right, because no one ever in the history of politics and the often hostile press has done these things. :rolleyes:

finnbow 07-25-2016 11:11 AM

Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee

bobabode 07-25-2016 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324895)
Armstrong Williams.

and Morning Blow.

CarlV 07-25-2016 11:13 AM

Deflect this. :p

Quote:

A former building superintendent working for the Trumps explained that he was told to code any application by a black person with the letter C, for colored, apparently so the office would know to reject it. A Trump rental agent said the Trumps wanted to rent only to “Jews and executives,” and discouraged renting to blacks.

Donald Trump furiously fought the civil rights suit in the courts and the media, but the Trumps eventually settled on terms that were widely regarded as a victory for the government. Three years later, the government sued the Trumps again, for continuing to discriminate.

In fairness, those suits date from long ago, and the discriminatory policies were probably put in place not by Donald Trump but by his father. Fred Trump appears to have been arrested at a Ku Klux Klan rally in 1927; Woody Guthrie, who lived in a Trump property in the 1950s, lambasted Fred Trump in recently discovered papers for stirring racial hatred.

Yet even if Donald Trump inherited his firm’s discriminatory policies, he allied himself decisively in the 1970s housing battle against the civil rights movement.

Another revealing moment came in 1989, when New York City was convulsed by the “Central Park jogger” case, a rape and beating of a young white woman. Five black and Latino teenagers were arrested.
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Trump stepped in, denounced Mayor Ed Koch’s call for peace and bought full-page newspaper ads calling for the death penalty. The five teenagers spent years in prison before being exonerated. In retrospect, they suffered a modern version of a lynching, and Trump played a part in whipping up the crowds.

As Trump moved into casinos, discrimination followed. In the 1980s, according to a former Trump casino worker, Kip Brown, who was quoted by The New Yorker: “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor. … They put us all in the back.”

In 1991, a book by John O’Donnell, who had been president of the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump as criticizing a black accountant and saying: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” O’Donnell wrote that for months afterward, Trump pressed him to fire the black accountant, until the man resigned of his own accord.

Trump eventually denied making those comments. But in 1997 in a Playboy interview, he conceded “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/op...-a-racist.html


Carl

Boreas 07-25-2016 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 324896)
Right, because no one ever in the history of politics and the often hostile press has done these things. :rolleyes:

Individual corruption is different from institutional corruption. The DNC, as an institution, has shown itself to be corrupt. That should matter to you, Bob. It did once.

bobabode 07-25-2016 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324900)
Individual corruption is different from institutional corruption. The DNC, as an institution, has shown itself to be corrupt. That should matter to you, Bob. It did once.

Concern trolling me now, John? How droll of you. How about you provide some evidence of said corruption because all I've seen from Whell is complaints about sausage making.

icenine 07-25-2016 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlV (Post 324899)

You have nailed it Carl. This is the reality behind the phrase "I like him because he is not politically correct."

Pio1980 07-25-2016 12:02 PM

About the only person that would run against Trump I wouldn't vote for is Ted Cruz, tho he is the Giant Douche from the South Park 'Douche and Turd Sandwich mascot' episode, with Trump as the Turd sandwich.
https://youtu.be/a0BuPgrBwHU

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whell 07-25-2016 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324895)
Armstrong Williams.

Swing and a miss! Strike two. Williams makes no bones about his conservative opinions, unlike the....errr.... "objective" mainstream press.

Boreas 07-25-2016 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 324906)
Concern trolling me now, John? How droll of you. How about you provide some evidence of said corruption because all I've seen from Whell is complaints about sausage making.

You know better than that. The evidence has been discussed here and will continue to be as the rest of the wikileaks emails are revealed.

From Hillary's own mouth.
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"I am grateful to Debbie for getting the Democratic Party to this year's historic convention in Philadelphia, and I know that this week's events will be a success thanks to her hard work and leadership," she said.

"There's simply no one better at taking the fight to the Republicans than Debbie--which is why I am glad that she has agreed to serve as honorary chair of my campaign's 50-state program to gain ground and elect Democrats in every part of the country, and will continue to serve as a surrogate for my campaign nationally, in Florida, and in other key states."
oops!

Boreas 07-25-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 324919)
Swing and a miss! Strike two. Williams makes no bones about his conservative opinions, unlike the....errr.... "objective" mainstream press.

Perhaps you've forgotten this. It makes sense that you'd try.

Quote:

In January 2005, USA Today reported that documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act revealed that Williams had been paid $240,000 to promote the controversial No Child Left Behind Act. USA Today claimed Williams was hired "to promote the law on his nationally syndicated television show and to urge other black journalists to do the same".[17]

As part of the agreement, Williams was required "to regularly comment on NCLB during the course of his broadcasts," and to interview Education Secretary Rod Paige for TV and radio spots that aired during the show in 2004".[18] The contract with Williams was part of a $1 million contract between the U.S. Department of Education and the public relations company Ketchum Inc.

Melanie Sloan from Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington told USA Today that the contract may be illegal "because Congress has prohibited propaganda ... [A]nd it's propaganda." United States Representative George Miller (D-CA), a member of the House Education Committee, called the contract "a very questionable use of taxpayers' money" that is "probably illegal."[19]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armstr...22_controversy

bobabode 07-25-2016 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324927)
You know better than that. The evidence has been discussed here and will continue to be as the rest of the wikileaks emails are revealed.

From Hillary's own mouth.


oops!

Show me. :rolleyes:

d-ray657 07-25-2016 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 324880)
Post the evidence.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_166066.html

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/0...ws-have/210204

merrylander 07-25-2016 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324927)
You know better than that. The evidence has been discussed here and will continue to be as the rest of the wikileaks emails are revealed.

From Hillary's own mouth.


oops!

As an honorary chair with no budget how is she to do this exactly?

Boreas 07-25-2016 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 324959)
As an honorary chair with no budget how is she to do this exactly?

How is she doing what, continuing to act as a Hillary surrogate? I don't know. I guess you'll have to ask Hillary. She said it.

Boreas 07-25-2016 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 324946)
Show me. :rolleyes:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...leaked-emails/

More to follow.

But if you really want to know.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

bobabode 07-25-2016 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324963)

You're reaching here, John. Sorry, no evidence of corruption in these leaked emails.

Boreas 07-25-2016 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 324966)
You're reaching here, John. Sorry, no evidence of corruption in these leaked emails.

What??

bobabode 07-25-2016 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324972)
What??

Maybe you can try to Bern'splain it to me? :rolleyes:

I've read the WaPo story. Nuthin' there.

finnbow 07-25-2016 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 324974)
Maybe you can try to Bern'splain it to me? :rolleyes:

I've read the WaPo story. Nuthin' there.

It seems that the DNC shockingly supported the Democrat in the race, to absolutely nobody's surprise, even Sanders. His whiny supporters love to have something else to stoke their whining though.

merrylander 07-25-2016 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324972)
What??

One man's corruption is another man's back room politics, wish I could get a link to that Atlantic article

What I cannot understand is all this whining about closed primaries. As I recall I got to vote as a Democrat for four or five delegates to the Democratic convention. Well unsurprisingly I voted for those candidates who said they would vote for the same candidate that I voted for. Now if you don't declare yourself to be either a Republican or a Democrat why in hell should you get to pick delegates to either convention?

finnbow 07-25-2016 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 324990)
One man's corruption is another man's back room politics, wish I could get a link to that Atlantic article

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...insane/485570/

whell 07-25-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324928)
Perhaps you've forgotten this. It makes sense that you'd try.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armstr...22_controversy

You had to go all the way back to 2005 to find that, and it's not even relevant. You do realize that the guy was a talk show host, right? You're making a comparison between a news article that is supposed to be objective, and a talk show.

whell 07-25-2016 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 324984)
It seems that the DNC shockingly supported the Democrat in the race, to absolutely nobody's surprise, even Sanders. His whiny supporters love to have something else to stoke their whining though.

And the apologists like you need to have things to minimize. You do realize Sanders was running as a Democrat, right?

Boreas 07-25-2016 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 325052)
You had to go all the way back to 2005 to find that, and it's not even relevant. You do realize that the guy was a talk show host, right? You're making a comparison between a news article that is supposed to be objective, and a talk show.

Yes, I do.

finnbow 07-25-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 325053)
And the apologists like you need to have things to minimize. You do realize Sanders was running as a Democrat, right?

Running as does not equal is. As to the OP, if you actually think the DNC has a closer relationship with the MSM than RNC has with Fox, I have a few dozen bridges to sell you.

Boreas 07-25-2016 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 325053)
And the apologists like you need to have things to minimize. You do realize Sanders was running as a Democrat, right?

But he isn't REALLY a Democrat, even though he has caucuses with the party for over 25 years and his political philosophy is closest to FDR's than to anyone else's.


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