Developing: Terrorist Operation In Progress At Munich Mall
 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...ng-centre-live

Reports are now that this one maybe one of two or three such attacks currently in progress.

All these attacks and I still cannot figure out what is driving them.

A desire to see Trump become president of the US, Farage become British PM, LePen become president of France, Wilders become PM of the Netherlands, etc. It'll work too.

Yes, that must be it. :rolleyes:

Also, just so we can be consistent here in this forum: anticipating that discussion of this act of terrorism will devolve into a debate about gun control, I'll offer that German gun laws are among the most restrictive in Europe.

Youtube videos. It's all youtube videos.

Yes, it is, moron. You don't think that ISIS or al Qaeda would be pleased to see western democracies swing radically to the right and become increasingly nativist and Islamophobic? It is, after all, the stated aim of no less a figure than Osama Bin Laden.

No it probably won't. But keep hoping whell.

They're among the arrows in their quiver, so why the mockery?

And their firearms death rate is but a small fraction of ours.

Why is their motivation relevant? These folks are the absolute personification of evil, and they need to be exterminated.

No shit. It's their specific aim, outlined in their literature and speeches. The Right's inherent tough guy attitude plays right into the terrorists' hands.

Figures. An understanding of their motivations and goals is essential to developing a strategy for defeating them.

What a scared little pussy you are. Why don't you just pop into bed and pull the covers up over your head. We'll tell you when it's safe to come out.

Not relevant. Individuals with evil intent were able to obtain the firearms they wanted to obtain to carry out their twisted mission regardless of the gun laws in place.

As we saw last week in France, if folks want to kill they'll find a way. Last week, it was accomplished with a truck...which also happened to be full of firearms and explosives regardless of strict French gun laws.

The bottom line is this: if folks truly want to commit acts of violence, a law isn't necessarily going to stop them. Murder is against the law everywhere, but it still happens. Its happening in countries at higher rates in the US regardless of the availability of firearms.

LOL. Sad, unhappy little pimple.

Tautology alert! I suppose I should have called you a scared, frightened little pussy. LOLZ!

Because I want to know why. Kinda like why a cop pulls someone over and shoots them. I want to know why. Is the cop just another killer or did the guy he shot do something to instigate it.

If the terrorists goal is to instill authoritarian governments, restrict freedoms, and encourage radical fundamentalism in the western world, then yes, we are playing right into their hands and will indeed be just another version of them before we know it.

Look how quickly we went from victim to terrorist nation after 9/11.

Not true, but if it gives you some sort of perverted comfort believing it, knock yourself out. BTW, I've been a gun owner, hunter and sport shooter for over 50 years, but I find the Right's gun fetish odd and disturbing.

Most of the illicit weapons in western Europe are Warsaw Pact surplus sold legally in eastern Europe and smuggled west, just as weapons in NYC come from Virginia.

They're specifically looking for an end-of-times war with the West with its final battle in Dabiq, Syria. FWIW, Dabiq is the name of ISIS's magazine.

By the time the republican war of the races is done we'll be pretty easy pickings.

I have no doubt Germany will root out the criminals. Thoughts and prayers to the city of Munich in this time of crisis.

Just proves that any country no matter how much security or surveillance attacks will still happen. Countries with heighten levels of security already in place, more then us still have attacks. A free open society will always be vulnerable to those who hate and want to impose fear upon the masses. The closing of freedoms and rights will not make us safe! Good old police work and understanding your nemesis is the way.




Barney

Absurd on face value, but the right does provide fuel for the Islamic jihad.

See post #6. And, while we're on the subject of absurdity,

http://politicalchat.org/showpost.ph...7&postcount=26

FWIW, the House of Saud is at the heart of this problem. Defeating ISIS will end a crisis, but the problem will remain. And then there's Turkey making it even more complicated.

No question about Saudi Arabia's complicity and Turkey's on-again-off-again stance.

True dat! :D

And how do you go about determining who is subject to extermination?

Is it possible to determine it in advance?

What level of proof do we need before we determine that one needs to be exterminated?

Don't you think learning a motive would be relevant to discerning those who are likely to engage in such acts? It might also be relevant in determining who is actually guilty of conduct warranting extermination.

It's a lot simpler to simply call them evil, isn't it.

Die Endlösung? They already had one of those in Munich.

I totlally agree with this reasonable post, thanks for that one!