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Wasillaguy 07-21-2016 01:44 PM

Dumpster Fire
 
This whole dumpster fire thing has turned into a trash truck blaze, on it's way to becoming a landfill conflagration. Hoping it will soon die down to debris embers, but for now it looks as if the garbage will continue to combust as those repeating it think they're hot shit.

bobabode 07-21-2016 01:54 PM

You mis-spelled Drumpster fire.

Pio1980 07-21-2016 02:23 PM

Drumpfster?
Meanwhile the Idiocracy love fest concludes tonight with the acclaimation of the ignorant pompous bullshit artist who represents them.

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Boreas 07-21-2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 324161)
This whole dumpster fire thing has turned into a trash truck blaze, on it's way to becoming a landfill conflagration. Hoping it will soon die down to debris embers, but for now it looks as if the garbage will continue to combust as those repeating it think they're hot shit.

I think it has already reached the landfill stage and a particular type of landfill, one comprised of buries tires. These can burn underground for years and this particular one will burn the Republican party to a cinder.

finnbow 07-21-2016 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 324161)
This whole dumpster fire thing has turned into a trash truck blaze, on it's way to becoming a landfill conflagration. Hoping it will soon die down to debris embers, but for now it looks as if the garbage will continue to combust as those repeating it think they're hot shit.

And Ted Cruz, the scab garbageman, is hoping to scoop up the ashes.

68custom 07-21-2016 02:57 PM

We can hope drumph pulls some crazy shit to end this carnival.

Wasillaguy 07-21-2016 03:51 PM

I guess if you're a city dweller this seems like a good phrase, but for us rural folks it sounds kind of silly.
Supposed to mean "a total disaster" according to urban dictionary. Just doesn't seem to me that a fire in a dumpster is much to be concerned about. It's trash, and the fire is contained in a metal container, where's the disaster with that?
We burn our paper trash. That way we only need pick up of the real garbage once a week.

Boreas 07-21-2016 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 324182)
I guess if you're a city dweller this seems like a good phrase, but for us rural folks it sounds kind of silly.
Supposed to mean "a total disaster" according to urban dictionary. Just doesn't seem to me that a fire in a dumpster is much to be concerned about. It's trash, and the fire is contained in a metal container, where's the disaster with that?
We burn our paper trash. That way we only need pick up of the real garbage once a week.

My sentiments exactly. The RNC dumpster fire isn't much to be concerned about. Rather, it's a cause for celebration.

CarlV 07-21-2016 04:14 PM

Cruise is just doing what the Koch Bros. are paying him to do. And to think I could have watched all that BS in prime time too instead of the 11:00 news. :)


Carl

Wasillaguy 07-21-2016 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324184)
My sentiments exactly. The RNC dumpster fire isn't much to be concerned about. Rather, it's a cause for celebration.

Ok, that makes more sense. Maybe someone should contact urban dictionary and straighten them out, cuz the definition they have now, and the way many people have been using it, sounds ignorant.
It'd be like people saying "pretzel sticks" to describe anything they find wonderfully delicious. Don't get me wrong, pretzels are good and all that, but not good enough to describe things that are delicious.

Pio1980 07-21-2016 06:06 PM

My recent word complaint concerns folks who insist on calling wheels "rims".
I can understand a big trash box of refuse on fire as symbolic of disfunction

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Wasillaguy 07-22-2016 12:21 PM

Ok, if we're going to vent, I have another.

Why do people insist, after I say something, on responding with "Right?"

This sounded stupid the first time I heard it, and it's not sounding any smarter over time. I make a simple statement, like "Wow, it's pretty warm out today", and they respond with "Right?".
I know I'm right. It's warm. Sweat on my brow and the leaves on the plants are drooping and all I feel like doing is sitting down and drinking a beer, so I'm not questioning my own statement. But for some reason their contribution to the conversation is to ask me if I'm right.

I think this started with them damn Texans, but they had it changed around a little. They'd make a statement and add the question on the end- "It's pretty warm today, right?" Which sounds damn near as stupid because it sounds like he's not sure and looking to me for approval of his statement, but he's really not.

d-ray657 07-22-2016 12:59 PM

OK, mine is "very unique." Unique means singular - no other like it. It is unique, or it is not unique. It can not be very unique or a little bit unique or sorta unique. And I am not unique in my distaste for that particular phrase.

Regards,

D-Ray

Boreas 07-22-2016 01:20 PM

In Baltimore, and perhaps other places, "right" is used as a substitute for "very" but only in connection with the quality of a the thing being described. For instance, you might describe a thing as "right nice" or "right good" (but probably not "right bad") but you would never say that the weather was "right hot" or that an item was "right expensive".

Wasillaguy 07-22-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324290)
In Baltimore, and perhaps other places, "right" is used as a substitute for "very" but only in connection with the quality of a the thing being described. For instance, you might describe a thing as "right nice" or "right good" (but probably not "right bad") but you would never say that the weather was "right hot" or that an item was "right expensive".

Jed Clampett was right fond of that usage as well.

Boreas 07-22-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 324298)
Jed Clampett was right fond of that usage as well.

I think a lot of usages of this sort are relics of the local dialects spoken in England and other places the colonists came from at the time of original colonization. Electronic media is rapidly homogenizing language these days and regionalisms and accents are rapidly disappearing in favor of what passes for standard English.

nailer 07-22-2016 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324290)
In Baltimore, and perhaps other places, "right" is used as a substitute for "very" but only in connection with the quality of a the thing being described. For instance, you might describe a thing as "right nice" or "right good" (but probably not "right bad") but you would never say that the weather was "right hot" or that an item was "right expensive".

Never noticed that as being a particularly Baltimore thing.

Boreas 07-22-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 324354)
Never noticed that as being a particularly Baltimore thing.

Never heard it out here (but I have heard "hon"). Didn't hear it in Philly or New Jersey or Colorado. If I had to guess, I'd say it was an Appalachian thing, probably of Scots Irish origin.

donquixote99 07-22-2016 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324358)
Never heard it out here (but I have heard "hon"). Didn't hear it in Philly or New Jersey or Colorado. If I had to guess, I'd say it was an Appalachian thing, probably of Scots Irish origin.

I'm getting called 'hon' more and more by cashiers. Don't think it's changing demographics--I think it's just a trend that has caught on.

Boreas 07-22-2016 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 324359)
I'm getting called 'hon' more and more by cashiers. Don't think it's changing demographics--I think it's just a trend that has caught on.

Baltimoreans have claimed 'hon' as their own for as long as I can remember. I don't know how legitimate the claim is but you do hear it a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Baltimore#Hon

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...ec98c7e1c0.jpg http://www.baltimoreorless.com/wp-co...12/honman1.jpg

finnbow 07-22-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324360)
Baltimoreans have claimed 'hon' as their own for as long as I can remember. I don't know how legitimate the claim is but you do hear it a lot.


Cafe Hon.

merrylander 07-23-2016 07:07 AM

It certainly is used quite frequently here.

Boreas 07-23-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 324363)

Yeah, in Hampden.

One Baltimorism that raises questions for me is the National Bohemian nickname currently in circulation. When it was a local Baltimore beer, we just called it "Boh" or "Bo" but now that it's owned by Pabst, makers of the worst beer in America (which is really saying something), we're supposed to call it "Natty Boh". I suppose Natty Boh is supposed to be the name of the little one eyed logo character but he used to be "Mr. Boh".

Parenthetically, the don't even sell this swill at Camden Yards any more and the used to "own" the scoreboard at Baltimore's earlier stadium.

https://lifetimetopps.files.wordpres...-bohemian.jpeg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...124969f1b8.jpg

http://breweriana.com/img/product/la...m-197-03-f.jpg

nailer 07-23-2016 10:48 AM

Spent many a day watching the O's from Memorial Stadium's upper deck. "Ain't the beer cold!"

Natty is his first name and is derived from National, like Boh was derived from Bohemian. Back in the day National Premium was a pretty good beer as was the annual Oktoberfest brew.

Boreas 07-23-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 324448)
Spent many a day watching the O's from Memorial Stadium's upper deck. "Ain't the beer cold!"

Natty is his first name and is derived from National, like Boh was derived from Bohemian. Back in the day National Premium was a pretty good beer as was the annual Oktoberfest brew.

Yes, National Premium was good as was the bock beer. Then there was Colt 45 Malt Liquor which wasn't so good. And I do understand where ?the Natty comes from. I just don't like it.

Do you remember the other Baltimore beers, Arrow 77 and American?

http://breweriana.com/img/product/la...7-032-08-1.jpg http://www.billsbeercans.com/~billsb...s/IMG_6084.JPG

nailer 07-23-2016 11:41 AM

Not really, although the American can looks vaguely familiar.

JJIII 07-23-2016 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324455)
Yes, National Premium was good as was the bock beer. Then there was Colt 45 Malt Liquor which wasn't so good. And I do understand where ?the Natty comes from. I just don't like it.

Do you remember the other Baltimore beers, Arrow 77 and American?

http://breweriana.com/img/product/la...7-032-08-1.jpg http://www.billsbeercans.com/~billsb...s/IMG_6084.JPG

Plagiarism? :D

http://www.budweiser.com/en/home.html

finnbow 07-23-2016 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324455)
Yes, National Premium was good as was the bock beer. Then there was Colt 45 Malt Liquor which wasn't so good. And I do understand where ?the Natty comes from. I just don't like it.

Do you remember the other Baltimore beers, Arrow 77 and American?

Carling also had a big presence in Bawlmer, with a large brewery right off of I-695. Thankfully, there's good beer in Bawlmer nowadays, with Heavy Seas being the best known of their craft breweries.

nailer 07-23-2016 12:22 PM

Carling was a national brand with a brewery in Baltimore County. Can't count the number of times we drove by it on visits to my cousins on the Magothy. Not a Baltimore beer from this native's perspective. Baltimore's local brew scene has been excellent since the early 90s, if not earlier.

Boreas 07-23-2016 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 324468)
Carling also had a big presence in Bawlmer, with a large brewery right off of I-695. Thankfully, there's good beer in Bawlmer nowadays, with Heavy Seas being the best known of their craft breweries.

Yeah, in Halethorpe. That brewery ended up making Tuborg and, eventually, National but, if I remember, they stopped making Boh and brewed only Colt 45 there.

Another old Baltimore beer that I forgot about, but which was probably Boh's biggest competitor, was Gunther.

http://www.billsbeercans.com/~billsb...s/IMG_0105.JPG

So, in my adult lifetime, Baltimore had 4 locally brewed and locally owned breweries. Three are gone and National, the only remaining one, is brewed in NC and GA and owned by Pabst, a Milwaukee brewer located in Los Angeles.

Boreas 07-23-2016 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 324473)
Carling was a national brand with a brewery in Baltimore County. Can't count the number of times we drove by it on visits to my cousins on the Magothy. Not a Baltimore beer from this native's perspective. Baltimore's local brew scene has been excellent since the early 90s, if not earlier.

Carling is actually a Canadian company, owned by another Canadian company, Molson.

merrylander 07-23-2016 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324488)
Carling is actually a Canadian company, owned by another Canadian company, Molson.

Thank you I was beginning to wonder.:)

nailer 07-23-2016 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324488)
Carling is actually a Canadian company, owned by another Canadian company, Molson.

Actually, I didn't say Carling was an American company. However Carling products were brewed and sold in America by American companies:

United States

After the repeal of prohibition in 1933, the Peerless Motor Car Company, looking for a way to diversify in the poor car market of the depression, purchased the American rights to Carling's formulas, identifying labels, and trademarks. Technicians and brewmasters were sent from Canada to convert a Peerless plant in Cleveland, Ohio, into the Brewing Corporation of America. They first tried just brewing Carling's Red Cap Ale, but sales were too slow to maintain the brewery, and sales didn't climb until the introduction of Black Label lager. The philosophy behind Black Label was to have a high quality lager that was available nationwide but with a locally brewed budget price. The strategy worked, and the next several decades led to rapid growth and expansion for the brewery and the Carling Black Label brand.[2]

When Carling stopped producing Black Label to focus on a more profitable lager, they found their sales plummeting. Carling re-introduced Black Label with a beautiful blonde named Mabel, portrayed by Jeanne Goodspeed, with the slogan "Hey Mabel, Black Label!". The twenty-year marketing campaign cemented the name in the popular culture of America.

In 1979, after several years of intense pressure from the larger American Brewers Miller and Anheuser-Busch, Carling-National was bought out by the Heileman Brewing Co. of LaCrosse, Wisconsin. Carling and the Black Label brand are currently owned by the Molson Coors Brewing Company. Though no longer widely distributed in the U.S., Black Label remains the official beer of Beer Frisbee.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carling_Black_Label

Pio1980 07-23-2016 02:00 PM

While we are doing local beer:
http://m.cityweekly.net/utah/utah-br...nt?oid=2157612

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Boreas 07-23-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 324512)
In 1979, after several years of intense pressure from the larger American Brewers Miller and Anheuser-Busch, Carling-National was bought out by the Heileman Brewing Co. of LaCrosse, Wisconsin. Carling and the Black Label brand are currently owned by the Molson Coors Brewing Company. Though no longer widely distributed in the U.S., Black Label remains the official beer of Beer Frisbee.[2][/I] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carling_Black_Label

Carling-National was the child of Mr. Boh and Mabel. Heileman, and with it Carling-National, was sold to Stroh's who in turn sold it to Pabst. Somewhere along the way, Carling must have been sold back to Canada or killed as a US brand.

Boreas 07-23-2016 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 324518)
While we are doing local beer:
http://m.cityweekly.net/utah/utah-br...nt?oid=2157612

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I was hoping someone would start mentioning some old local beers from the time when every big city had their own breweries, ones like Iron City or Genesee, both of which are still going and both are still locally owned.

finnbow 07-23-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324522)
I was hoping someone would start mentioning some old local beers from the time when every big city had their own breweries, ones like Iron City or Genesee, both of which are still going and both are still locally owned.

Dixie Beer, New Orleans. Rotgut swill, but beloved and lovingly ridiculed. Katrina trashed the brewery and it's now contract brewed.

http://robsbeercans.com/images/SS$1237.JPG

When talking locally brewed, family-owned beers, here's the grand-daddy of them all.
https://www.shoppersvineyard.com/ima...al-lager_1.gif

Boreas 07-23-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 324530)
Dixie Beer, New Orleans. Rotgut swill, but beloved and lovingly ridiculed. Katrina trashed the brewery and it's now contract brewed.

Just like "Natty Boh", owned by Pabst but brewed under contract by Miller-Coors.

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When talking locally brewed, family-owned beers, here's the grand-daddy of them all.
I forgot Yuengling. Another Pittsburgh beer, as I recall.

finnbow 07-23-2016 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 324533)
Just like "Natty Boh", owned by Pabst but brewed under contract by Miller-Coors.

Dixie (or the skeletal remains thereof) is privately owned by Joe and Kendra Bruno who bought the struggling company in 1985. I remember when I lived in NOLA (75-78), Dixie put out a bad batch of beer (it got exposed to floor cleaning chemicals) and suffered a lot of bad publicity. As a result, it sent beer trucks out through the neighborhoods of New Orleans giving away free beer. It's now brewed by Huber Brewery in Monroe, WI.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21872115/n...ck-dixie-beer/

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I forgot Yuengling. Another Pittsburgh beer, as I recall.
Yuengling is from Pottsville, near Allentown. Rolling Rock used to be another, but it has sold out and is no longer brewed in "the glass line tanks in Latrobe, PA," but in Newark by InBev.

Boreas 07-23-2016 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 324539)
Yuengling is from Pottsville, near Allentown. Rolling Rock used to be another, but it has sold out and is no longer brewed in "the glass line tanks in Latrobe, PA," but in Newark by InBev.

Pottsville! That's right. At least I got the state right. I used to look down on the majestic skyline of Pottsville from the lofty heights of Hawk Mountain, where I used to do the raptor census during Fall migration.


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