A question for our Republican friends.....
 

So, how many here will be supporting Trump simply because he's not Hillary?

Wouldn't Republicans be supporting Trump because he's their party's candidate?

More likely it's about Supreme Court appointees rather than Trump's qualifications.
Those who heard the dog whistling are already on board.
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True. What I'm getting at is I was just wondering how many would vote for him that don't really like the guy at all. I've talked with some that think he's a Democratic Trojan Horse.

I've also met a lot of Democrats who feel the same way about Hillary. The fact that she came from a Republican background, they way she panders to large corporations, her relentless "truthiness"........Sure looks like a Republican to a lot of people.

Perhaps it's all the same?

Pretty much so, but there are still some difference. My rice bowl is better served by the Democratic Party.

One really needs to look at those he is bringing in and who is coalescing around him. They are definitely NOT moderates.
This isn't a choice I would make based on mere hope.

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Interesting that there is not a single direct response, but if it is to do with some liberal ............. :rolleyes:

I will bet that every right winger here plans to vote for Trump.

Agreed. I suspect the reason for the rather eloquent silence is that Dave's question was directed at those who will support Trump only because she isn't Hillary. I think our resident Republicans here will all vote for Trump on his own merits. Or haven't you noticed the dearth of sanity and reason among them.

Being on a tiny phone with no time to fight three toddlers to keep hands off a PC, I'll try to say this in a nutshell before the toddlers get into something else.

I voted for Trump and plan to do so again in November. It's not just because he's not Hillary, but in all honesty I do not like her much either. I don't worship Trump, that's for sure, but I support him because he's the only one who is on key with what many people feel needs to be done. Control our borders, properly vet each and every person BEFORE they are allowed to enter the USA, and it'd be nice to see made in USA once again on the things that we buy. It'll mean an American has a job making it. Even some of our most costly tools are showing up on tool trucks with made elsewhere printed on them. Prices are still premium though of course. EPA is driving much stuff out of our country, just write a tool company a letter asking why they doing this and then read about how hard it is to chrome plate something in the USA now. If the things the EPA is such dicks about in the USA is so important to the environment then what's the difference in making it elsewhere... it'd still impact the environment either way so why not leave USA companies alone? It only hurts us when they dick us but ok it to be made offshore the same way. The jobs belong here.

I could go on on and on but I haven't the time. Kids are climbing stuff as I type so see y'all later.

Yeah Dave it sure would be nice to see 'Made in the USA' on stuff again. Makes me wonder though how many Democrats are running the companies that are shipping all the work overseas.

Don't know what it is like in your neck of the woods but it is hotter than Hades here in Maryland, maybe the GOP has interfered with the EPA so often that it is too late to stop climate change now. Wonder what sort of a world those three kids are going to inherit? Sure does not look promising for my two granddaughters.

You were good so far until you touch the EPA. The EPA for the most part tries in the face of stiff opposition to protect me, you and your kids.

What is needed is mechanism to force those who trade with us to abide by our environmental standards.

If I vote, it will be because I'm voting FOR something or someone, not because I'm voting AGAINST something or someone. If I can't do that, I'll stay home.

You've sure been defensive about der Almighty Trumpenfuhrer though.

No. What I have been amazed by is how Trump's is still something that the media can't figure out. They keep getting it wrong about Trump, and getting it wrong in the most amazing example of group - think I've ever witnessed.

I am certainly aligned with some of his positions, but I'm not sold on the total package.

I don't think Trump is running. I think his family is. The guy can't do anything without all his children being nearby. The vibe I get is that they are not merely campaign window dressing. Should the world end they may be the people behind the curtain in the Oval Office.

Plenty of people have figured him out. He's a narcissistic demagogue with a populist/nationalist ideology promoting authoritarian solutions. Any more question?

Can you Trumpsplain it for us, whell? Help us figure him out.

Absolutely. +1

Nah, dioxin makes you big and strong and lead intake makes you smart.;)

Sorta like battery companies. I asked them why is it now costing 100.00 for the same batteries I used to get for 40.00 and you know what their anwser was? Thank the EPA, they've made it very costly to make a product for us to provide to you. And that's not to mention the batteries that cost 250.00 now. When I install one of those I sometimes have to explain to someone why the price is so much higher than the last one they bought 8 years ago. It really sucks, and it hurts people. And tires? God don't get me started

It's easier to blame the EPA than it is to admit the top CEO's of the company add $50.00 per battery just for their multi million dollar salaries.

I guarendamnteeya that if all regulations were eliminated tomorrow the price of that battery would remain the same.

It is beyond debate that both the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts have been hugely successful.

Depends on what the battery is used for. I just put eight new batteries in the golf cart to the tune of $1024.

And I'm guessing that you'd also guaruntee that if Hillary won and put a few liberals on the Supreme Court and successfully got rid of the second amendment that it would stop crime in the USA. There's several reasons I don't support the democrat party.

Someone please explain why putting toxic waste into the envirement for profit so someone else has to clean it up is a bad idea, starting with sick and genetically damaged kids.

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Dude, he's Hitler incarnate.

Uh huh. Right. You just keep on thinking like that, right along with your pals on the left and in the media.

I want Trump to win.

Because the American people haven't suffered enough.

If they had they would be electing Bernie Sanders in a landslide.

But they didn't.

Therefore they have to be punished.

Call it tough love.

You are making some
Incredible leaps there, beginning with getting rid of the first amendment.
For myself I'm far more likely to be shot by a nutjob with a personal arsenal than IS.

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Whell's not totally sure he likes Trump, but he's very certain he hates us.

Dude, you're hysterical.

I don't hate anyone on this forum, Don. I don't agree with folks here much. We certainly have differing opinions but I don't folks for having other opinions.

I do feel sorry for folks who spend time thinking about people who might not like them. Most of us left that kind of thinking behind when we became adults.

And his ONLY SKILL is a type of salesmanship. He pretty much can't put a full sentence together. He promises things, like 'bringing back jobs,' but he doesn't say how he will do it. This is because he doesn't know how he will do it, and he further doesn't even know that he doesn't know.

In a sense, the comparison to Hitler is unfair--to Hitler. Hitler was smarter.

So, present a counter argument, preferably one that relies on your own intellectual prowess and not lengthy and ambiguous links to the thoughts of others.

How would you characterize him? I think my views have a very solid basis.

I don't think you're being exactly honest here. You do too much shit just to fuck with people.

Here the Washington Post has it exactly right.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...583_story.html

You really believe that?

What evidence to the contrary can you present?

I'm willing to strike hate and insert resentment, hate may (or may not) have been a little harsh. That is exactly how much I will temper my remarks, no further.

Whell lies, whell taunts, whell insults. Whell is not a man of goodwill. If you or he think otherwise, it is a triumph of denial.