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Dondilion 07-14-2016 02:40 PM

Ginsburg admits she f#@ked up.
 
Ruth Bader Ginsburg has apologized for her recent criticism of Trump. She regretted and admitted that it was "ill-advised".

Ginsburg has sullied her seat and is now damage goods. She should resign.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36796495

Pio1980 07-14-2016 02:53 PM

I dunno, calling out an obvious asshole isn't necessarily partisanship.

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donquixote99 07-14-2016 02:55 PM

Oh my. Is she unclean now? Can't she take a ritual bath and get blessed or something?

She's going nowhere I strongly hope.

bobabode 07-14-2016 02:55 PM

Hell, no.

Funny how yer boy T'Rump is running on an anti-PC platform but when someone rightfully criticizes his moronic ideas for our country it's all of a sudden 'out of bounds'. :rolleyes:

68custom 07-14-2016 02:55 PM

no one is to resign before Hillary is elected!

donquixote99 07-14-2016 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 323284)
Hell, no.

Funny how yer boy T'Rump is running on an anti-PC platform but when someone rightfully criticizes his moronic ideas for our country it's all of a sudden 'out of bounds'. :rolleyes:

Yes. Blatant double standard.

bobabode 07-14-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 323279)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg has apologized for her recent criticism of Trump. She regretted and admitted that it was "ill-advised".

Ginsburg has sullied her seat and is now damage goods. She should resign.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36796495

Here's a rebuttal for you. ;)

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...-donald-trump/

merrylander 07-14-2016 03:07 PM

She should bloody well stay right where she is as one of the few honest justices on that bench, if anyone should resign it is Alito simply for being a flaming idiot.

barbara 07-14-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 323284)
Hell, no.



Funny how yer boy T'Rump is running on an anti-PC platform but when someone rightfully criticizes his moronic ideas for our country it's all of a sudden 'out of bounds'. :rolleyes:



Ain't that the truth!!

Dondilion 07-14-2016 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 323284)
Hell, no.

Funny how yer boy T'Rump is running on an anti-PC platform but when someone rightfully criticizes his moronic ideas for our country it's all of a sudden 'out of bounds'. :rolleyes:

Are you really serious?

You refer to the Supreme Court Justice as someone.

Boreas 07-14-2016 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 323279)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg has apologized for her recent criticism of Trump. She regretted and admitted that it was "ill-advised".

Ginsburg has sullied her seat and is now damage goods. She should resign.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36796495

Preposterous! Should Clarence Thomas resign for his obvious conficts of interest in the light of his wife's lobbying activities and his ties to the Koch brothers?

MrPots 07-14-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 323284)
Hell, no.

Funny how yer boy T'Rump is running on an anti-PC platform but when someone rightfully criticizes his moronic ideas for our country it's all of a sudden 'out of bounds'. :rolleyes:

I would have felt better if she had told Trump to stuff it. As it is, I find it troubling that criticism of Herr trump is verboten. The apologies come too quick.

Dondilion 07-14-2016 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 323295)
I would have felt better if she had told Trump to stuff it. As it is, I find it troubling that criticism of Herr trump is verboten. The apologies come too quick.

You mean she realized she messed up. :D

Rajoo 07-14-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 323296)
You mean she realized she messed up. :D

Yes, the second time by apologizing. She has more class than Trump ever will.
Wonder who pressured her to apologize, slick Willie since Hillary is doing the Titanic?

MrPots 07-14-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 323302)
Yes, the second time by apologizing. She has more class than Trump ever will.
Wonder who pressured her to apologize, slick Willie since Hillary is doing the Titanic?

I suspect Trump threatened to have her executed if he becomes president.

Pio1980 07-14-2016 10:10 PM

Naw, he's a lawsuit whore.
He'll sic his legal staff on her.

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Dondilion 07-14-2016 10:42 PM

Apparently the lady got carried away with the politics of the day and forgot the implications of her seat.

She is now into possible recuse status. :(

Pio1980 07-14-2016 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 323354)
Apparently the lady got carried away with the politics of the day and forgot the implications of her seat.

She is now into possible recuse status. :(

Probably not any more than Thomas or the late Scalia, whose political bias was quite apparent.

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Dondilion 07-14-2016 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 323355)
Probably not any more than Thomas or the late Scalia, whose political bias was quite apparent.

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Not quite so.

Bader is now directly linked to a possible president.

Pio1980 07-14-2016 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 323357)
Not quite so.

Bader is now directly linked to a possible president.

True, tho that says more about the folks who think he is a qualified candidate than it says about her. Mebbe she should have passed on the question, but I don't know if she could as he is such a deserving target for the scorn he has earned.

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merrylander 07-15-2016 07:00 AM

I wonder where Dondi was when Scalia and Thomas dined (by command) at the Koch Bros.

sheltiedave 07-15-2016 08:15 AM

I wonder how many 83 year olds have either the patience or inclination NOT to speak their mind, no matter how much their seat gets sullied.

As far as what she said, part of it was repeating what her deceased husband had previously stated, and calling Trump a "fake" is something that 15 year olds understand. Certainly, we adults should have similar concerns.

Dondilion 07-15-2016 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 323363)
I wonder where Dondi was when Scalia and Thomas dined (by command) at the Koch Bros.

No comparison.

Bader was into ad hominem against the "head" of one of our two main political parties. She entered gutter politics.

I cannot see how you guys do not see the magnitude of this f@#K up.

I believe the lady has just grasped its implication and thus her "circumspect" statement.

MrPots 07-15-2016 08:40 AM

Her only fuck up was that she criticized a republican. If she'd criticized Clinton I guarantee Don ya'll would be "hell yea!" I get how you people are.....two faced.

JJIII 07-15-2016 08:44 AM

From the OP's link...

"Justice Ginsburg said she regretted her remarks and they were "ill-advised"."

I wonder how many other decisions she has made lately, or will make in the future, are or will be "ill advised"?

Dondilion 07-15-2016 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 323374)
Her only fuck up was that she criticized a republican. If she'd criticized Clinton I guarantee Don ya'll would be "hell yea!" I get how you people are.....two faced.

Since you are presuming...I am presuming that you in such a situation would condemn her.

donquixote99 07-15-2016 09:15 AM

Where in the Constitution does it say Supreme Court Justices can't criticize political figures? It's a violation of norms, but it's no crime. You are free to criticize. I am free to agree with the criticism to a point, but then to excuse.

Rajoo 07-15-2016 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 323373)
No comparison.

Bader was into ad hominem against the "head" of one of our two main political parties. She entered gutter politics.

I cannot see how you guys do not see the magnitude of this f@#K up.

I believe the lady has just grasped its implication and thus her "circumspect" statement.

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Bader was into ad hominem against the "head" of one of our two main political parties. She entered gutter politics.
Are you serious? Does the real Republican party know or accept that trump is the 'head' of their party? The only response I have is 'get real' and try not repeating this is mature adult company. Might as well write in Al Bundy for President.

sheltiedave 07-15-2016 09:29 AM

Scalia's hunting and rich man vacations, provided free of charge by wealthy Americans, were also ill-advised. Didn't stop him one iota from attending, or defending his behavior to the hilt, on vacations that cost others tens of thousands of dollars.

Come to think of it, wasn't Scalia on one of these rich man junkets when he died? Short memories indeed!

I wonder if Ruth got invited to any of these?

Dondilion 07-15-2016 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 323393)
Are you serious? Does the real Republican party know or accept that trump is the 'head' of their party? The only response I have is 'get real' and try not repeating this is mature adult company. Might as well write in Al Bundy for President.

I am serious!

The main point is the lady openly engaged in ad hominem against a major political figure. Whether he is the real head or a figure head or a pig head is not germane.

She entered gutter politics.

And please note head was "head". So so post is a non starter.

Dondilion 07-15-2016 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 323390)
It's a violation of norms, but it's no crime.

A gross violation, especially since the criticism was so poignantly personal. :(

Rajoo 07-15-2016 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 323397)
I am serious!

The main point is the lady openly engaged in ad hominem against a major political figure. Whether he is the real head or a figure head or a pig head is not germane.

She entered gutter politics.

And please note head was "head". So so post is a non starter.

I suspect that it is not what she said that bothers the Trumpers, but that it is true! Here is Orin Hatch:
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Sen. Orrin Hatch, the senior member of the Judiciary Committee and longest-serving GOP senator, said: "Those comments were inappropriate. On the other hand, she's reached a point in her life that she ought to say whatever she wants to."
Granted he has the Utah/Mormon/Romney anti-Trump connection bias but even so his comment rings true. For all we know, Justice Ginsberg really wants to see President Hillary in the WH (like the SCOTUS selected Dubya back in 2000), and if so, WTF. Par for the course and the more your side keeps harping on it, this helps Hillary with the women vote even more so. Besides shouldn't you be worried about the Pence selection?

BlueStreak 07-15-2016 09:55 AM

She admitted she was wrong in exhibiting her political bias as a SC Justice.

But, she did not retract her statement.

Because she was right about that.

BlueStreak 07-15-2016 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 323282)
I dunno, calling out an obvious asshole isn't necessarily partisanship.

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Are you sure "Asshole" isn't a political party? They sure seem to be coalescing into one.

donquixote99 07-15-2016 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 323399)
A gross violation, especially since the criticism was so poignantly personal. :(

Here's all the 'poignantly personal' stuff. Read it and try not to cry:


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Interview July 7, 2016 with Associated Press

Asked what if Trump won the presidency, Ginsburg said: "I don't want to think about that possibility, but if it should be, then everything is up for grabs."

Interview July 8, 2016 with New York Times

"I can’t imagine what this place would be — I can’t imagine what the country would be — with Donald Trump as our president. For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.

Referring to something she thought her late husband, tax lawyer Martin Ginsburg, would have said, she said: "Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand."

Interview July 11, 2016 with CNN

"He is a faker. He has no consistency about him. He says whatever comes into his head at the moment. He really has an ego. ... How has he gotten away with not turning over his tax returns? The press seems to be very gentle with him on that ….

"At first I thought it was funny," she said of Trump's early candidacy. "To think that there's a possibility that he could be president ….

"I think he has gotten so much free publicity ….

"Every other presidential candidate has turned over tax returns."
Certainly improper talk, given her position. But given all the circumstances, I absolutely do not call for her resignation. Not now. Not her. Not over Trump.

Pio1980 07-15-2016 10:06 AM

Improper, perhaps. Inaccurate, not really.

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Rajoo 07-15-2016 10:20 AM

Why Do We Pretend Supreme Court Justices Are Anything But Political Officials?

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The late Justice Antonin Scalia believed that the federal Constitution allows states to ban abortion, to prohibit consensual sex between two adults in the privacy of their home as well as same-sex marriage, to keep a prestigious state-funded military college exclusively all male, and to start official legislative sessions (and high school graduation ceremonies) with exclusively Christian prayers.
Guess what, Supreme Court justices are people too. Justice Ginsberg should not have had to take back her comments regarding Trump who is nothing but a flim-flam man.

https://newrepublic.com/article/1302...ical-officials

Dondilion 07-15-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 323409)

Certainly improper talk, given her position. But given all the circumstances, I absolutely do not call for her resignation. Not now. Not her. Not over Trump.

Trump has caused you and the lady to lose the high ground.

Boreas 07-15-2016 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 323424)
Trump has caused you and the lady to lose the high ground.

What caused Trump to shun the high ground.

Pio1980 07-15-2016 11:16 AM

The lady plays Captain Obvious, the only high ground the hot air buffoon defends is his penthouses.
Philosophically he is a gutter huckster, anything goes to achieve a goal.


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