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Tom Joad 06-27-2016 05:16 PM

DNC Convention Costs Leaving Young And Poor Delegates Out In The Cold
 
Some of these Bernie kids that ran for delegate are getting a rude awakening. The convention is an exclusive party for elite insiders.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3243927/dnc...t-in-the-cold/

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The exorbitant costs of attending the Democratic Convention in Philadelphia on July 25-28 this year, is threatening to leave some delegates out in the cold.

The DNC strongly requires delegates to stay at an appointed hotel, and costs for a room start at $569 per night, plus tax and fees, with the hotel requiring a five night minimum, putting base costs for attending the convention in the thousands, effectively shutting out anyone below a certain income bracket.
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There were other surprise costs buried in the literature packets distributed to delegates including a “Breakfast and Bash” ticket for $200, which is not technically required, but it’s where the delegate credentials will be handed out. In a further blow to the pocket, all costs must be booked by June 30, a month before the convention, and paid in full by July 17.

“Some are getting nearby cheaper places to stay, which puts them at great risk of not getting past security or receiving their credentials, however they have no other choice as many have just been notified of their delegate status and do not have enough time to fundraise,” Natalie Higley, a California delegate and mother-of-one explained.
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The jaw-dropping costs have affected both Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton delegates, but it seems to be affecting Bernie Sanders delegates more due to his platform attracting younger people, and people in precarious financial situations due to ill health, career status, or earning below living standard wages.

bobabode 06-27-2016 05:27 PM

Ahhh, The Inquisitr - the tribune for the permanently aggrieved and purveyor of conspiracy theories par excellance. ;)

Tom Joad 06-27-2016 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 321097)
Ahhh, The Inquisitr - the tribune for the permanently aggrieved and purveyor of conspiracy theories par excellance. ;)

Sure. All anyone has to do is go to their local library and pick up a copy of "Attend the Convention on $5 a day":rolleyes:

Tom Joad 06-27-2016 05:38 PM

Young, low-income delegates feeling the squeeze of DNC in Philly
 
This shit is all over the net Bob. Everytime you attack the source, I'll put up another one. Let's see who blinks first. :)

http://www.phillyvoice.com/young-low...ze-dnc-philly/

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DNC officials say the event from July 25-28 will deliver an estimated economic impact of $250-300 million to the Greater Philadelphia Area, yet those who will be instrumental in the proceedings are faced with sky-high hotel bills and fees for associated events.

Delegates pledged to both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders told Vice News that the per-person cost of the four-day trip to Philadelphia will cost anywhere from $3,000 to $8,000, a price tag that may constrain those who are younger or come from a low-income background.

"When we ran for delegate positions we knew it was going to be a little pricey, but none of us knew how expensive it is," said Andrew Niquette, a 19-year-old chef and Bernie Sanders delegate from Georgia. His estimated bill is $8,000, including $1,000 per night in hotel expenses.

barbara 06-27-2016 05:41 PM

For crying out loud..... Which idiot thought it was going to be cheap??

Ever price going to the Olympics?

Or any other major event?

bobabode 06-27-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 321101)
This shit is all over the net Bob. Everytime you attack the source, I'll put up another one. Let's see who blinks first. :)

http://www.phillyvoice.com/young-low...ze-dnc-philly/

St. Birdie has $9 million in his back pocket. Surely, he can foot the bill. ;)

Tom Joad 06-27-2016 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 321104)
St. Birdie has $9 million in his back pocket. Surely, he can foot the bill. ;)

Maybe he will find a way to help. He's a good guy.

This won't affect the Clinton delegates.

Most of them are multi-millionaires.

For the handful that are not, there are plenty of wealthy Clinton donors that will sponsor them.

Tom Joad 06-27-2016 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 321103)
For crying out loud..... Which idiot thought it was going to be cheap??

Ever price going to the Olympics?

Or any other major event?

I don't do crowds.

I would probably pay anywhere from $200 to $500 to get out of having to go to something like that.

icenine 06-27-2016 06:00 PM

Sounds like bullshit to me. Another altnet post by TJ....Chicken Little has more cred than a TJ source.

Tom Joad 06-27-2016 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 321109)
Sounds like bullshit to me. Another altnet post by TJ....Chicken Little has more cred than a TJ source.

So how much do you think it costs for a delegate to attend a convention?

Or do you think it's like your conferences from work?

An on the job vacation on the taxpayers dime?

bobabode 06-27-2016 06:11 PM

"His estimated bill is $8,000, including $1,000 per night in hotel expenses."

Someone oughta tell this 19 year old kid to find a Motel 6 instead of living it large at the Ritz/Carlton. :rolleyes:

Boreas 06-27-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 321109)
Sounds like bullshit to me. Another alternet post by TJ....Chicken Little has more cred than a TJ source.

Alternet is credible, Robbin.

Tom Joad 06-27-2016 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 321111)
"His estimated bill is $8,000, including $1,000 per night in hotel expenses."

Someone oughta tell this 19 year old kid to find a Motel 6 instead of living it large at the Ritz/Carlton. :rolleyes:

That's obviously inflated, but it would be real easy to run up three grand when you count airfare. Some of these poor schmucks are working $10 an hour gigs at the Health Food store. They're eating Ramen noodles every night to make the rent. I feel sorry for the poor young naive sumbitches. They actually think they're going to "make a difference". :rolleyes:

An old Dude like myself that has been around the block as many times as I have has seen how the game really works and gets pretty jaded.

bobabode 06-27-2016 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 321114)
That's obviously inflated, but it would be real easy to run up three grand when you count airfare. Some of these poor schmucks are working $10 an hour gigs at the Health Food store. They're eating Ramen noodles every night to make the rent. I feel sorry for the poor young naive sumbitches. They actually think they're going to "make a difference". :rolleyes:

An old Dude like myself that has been around the block as many times as I have has seen how the game really works and gets pretty jaded.

Hopefully he savvy enough to make some connections and learn the ropes while he's in Philly. Then he can bring that experience home and run for a local school board or something. He's got enough fire in his belly otherwise he wouldn't have volunteered.

Boreas 06-27-2016 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 321111)
"His estimated bill is $8,000, including $1,000 per night in hotel expenses."

Someone oughta tell this 19 year old kid to find a Motel 6 instead of living it large at the Ritz/Carlton. :rolleyes:

That's where all the hookers will be staying.

Tom Joad 06-27-2016 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 321116)
Hopefully he savvy enough to make some connections and learn the ropes while he's in Philly. Then he can bring that experience home and run for a local school board or something. He's got enough fire in his belly otherwise he wouldn't have volunteered.

You cheated us out of Bernie's nomination, but you're willing to give us a shot at a local school board seat as a consolation prize?

Gee Dude, that's real White of you. :)

bobabode 06-27-2016 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 321120)
You cheated us out of Bernie's nomination, but you're willing to give us a shot at a local school board seat as a consolation prize?

Gee Dude, that's real White of you. :)

I? By that I assume you mean myself and 4 million more voters who prefer Clinton over another politician.

You really are unreal, Joad. Climb down off that cross, someone needs the wood.

Bernie lost by a landslide, time to deal with it.

finnbow 06-27-2016 07:00 PM

Not my problem. Philly deserves any and all the money they can squeeze out of the convention. This is the Superbowl of politics. You pay to play/attend.

Rajoo 06-27-2016 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 321122)
I? By that I assume you mean myself and 4 million more voters who prefer Clinton over another politician.

You really are unreal, Joad. Climb down off that cross, someone needs the wood.

Bernie lost by a landslide, time to deal with it.

Sound like a broken record Bob, those numbers have no statistical credibility. It's an election conducted by a private club with 50 branches.

The real problem is that Hillary is starting the general election campaign at a -55% negative rating and this is before Trump has started playing pinata with her.

barbara 06-27-2016 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 321123)
Not my problem. Philly deserves any and all the money they can squeeze out of the convention. This is the Superbowl of politics. You pay to play/attend.



And speaking of Super Bowl.....
Here's what it cost to go there

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl...tml/?a=viewall


Plenty of people can come up with the money to go to a ball game.... They should also be able to figure out how to afford a convention.

bobabode 06-27-2016 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 321135)
Sound like a broken record Bob, those numbers have no statistical credibility. It's an election conducted by a private club with 50 branches.

The real problem is that Hillary is starting the general election campaign at a -55% negative rating and this is before Trump has started playing pinata with her.

"Yeah, FUCK democracy!" said every deadender Bernie or Buster everywhere.:rolleyes:

You characters are too much.

Rajoo 06-27-2016 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 321123)
Not my problem. Philly deserves any and all the money they can squeeze out of the convention. This is the Superbowl of politics. You pay to play/attend.

Superbowl attracts ordinary well heeled citizens. How many ordinary citizens generally attend or plan to attend the Superbowl of politics.

icenine 06-27-2016 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 321135)
Sound like a broken record Bob, those numbers have no statistical credibility. It's an election conducted by a private club with 50 branches.

The real problem is that Hillary is starting the general election campaign at a -55% negative rating and this is before Trump has started playing pinata with her.

Will you get on the plane already.......leave your laptop in the terminal garbage can too. I need a break from this constant Hillary bashing:rolleyes:

finnbow 06-27-2016 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 321136)
And speaking of Super Bowl.....
Here's what it cost to go there

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl...tml/?a=viewall

Plenty of people can come up with the money to go to a ball game.... They should also be able to figure out how to afford a convention.

Joad is scouring the web to find stuff to rationalize why he's always pissed-off at the world. I don't much give a shit how much somebody has to pay for a hotel room in Philly during the convention. If I were stupid enough to go to Philly at that time to eat, drink and visit museums, I'd also be ripped off on hotel rates. Such is life.

barbara 06-27-2016 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 321141)
Joad is scouring the web to find stuff to rationalize why he's always pissed-off at the world. I don't much give a shit how much somebody has to pay for a hotel room in Philly during the convention. If I were stupid enough to go to Philly at that time to eat, drink and visit museums, I'd also be ripped off on hotel rates. Such is life.



Yep. I agree.

Boreas 06-27-2016 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 321140)
Will you get on the plane already.......leave your laptop in the terminal garbage can too. I need a break from this constant Hillary bashing:rolleyes:

What did he say that isn't true, Robbin? You need to resign yourself to the fact that over half the country just isn't as smart as you and can't see all of Hillary's superior qualities.

bobabode 06-27-2016 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 321144)
What did he say that isn't true, Robbin? You need to resign yourself to the fact that over half the country just isn't as smart as you and can't see all of Hillary's superior qualities.

Half the country thinks that the government is hiding little green men at Area 51 and chem trails are sterilizing men. :D

Rajoo 06-27-2016 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 321140)
Will you get on the plane already.......leave your laptop in the terminal garbage can too. I need a break from this constant Hillary bashing:rolleyes:

Sorry that I am annoying you Ice (but not Bob). Every time that Hillary won more votes than Bernie is brought up with reference to the general election, it is a meaningless statistic. Bob's post said "4 million more voters who prefer Clinton over another politician" and I called it nonsense. What if there were three instead of two? Would HRC have won 4 million more votes? Or if there were four? See how this number has no statistical significance?

Then I brought up the fact that as of today Hillary's popularity for President is at -55. Now tell me, how is this Hillary bashing other than that I responded to Bob's misplaced bravado regarding all things Hillary.

Planes have wifi, I have a smart phone................ :)

bobabode 06-27-2016 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 321153)
Sorry that I am annoying you Ice (but not Bob). Every time that Hillary won more votes than Bernie is brought up with reference to the general election, it is a meaningless statistic. Bob's post said "4 million more voters who prefer Clinton over another politician" and I called it nonsense. What if there were three instead of two? Would HRC have won 4 million more votes? Or if there were four? See how this number has no statistical significance?

Then I brought up the fact that as of today Hillary's popularity for President is at -55. Now tell me, how is this Hillary bashing other than that I responded to Bob's misplaced bravado regarding all things Hillary.

Planes have wifi, I have a smart phone................ :)

Annoying me? Naw, just amused that a full grown atheist has found religion in a cranky old Jewish cat who ran off to Vermont in the '60's and chucked all the math you learned at Cal State.
'Tis a puzzle, Raj. :D

Boreas 06-27-2016 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 321152)
Half the country thinks that the government is hiding little green men at Area 51 and chem trails are sterilizing men. :D

If it were true, you might have a point.

bobabode 06-27-2016 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 321160)
If it were true, you might have a point.

It isn't? :eek: I suppose you have some proof of that. :rolleyes:

Rajoo 06-27-2016 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 321156)
Annoying me? Naw, just amused that a full grown atheist has found religion in a cranky old Jewish cat who ran off to Vermont in the '60's and chucked all the math you learned at Cal State.
'Tis a puzzle, Raj. (grin deleted for exceeding limit)

1. Of course I am annoying you, I can read it in your responses. ;)

2. Bernie won all of his elections using his own name unlike our Mrs. Bill Clinton. 2x ;)

3. Cal State??????? Hillarybots in all probability went to Cal State University at different locations and probably dropped out because math was a required subject. :D

I am a graduate of University of Illinois. :cool:

bobabode 06-27-2016 09:36 PM

Actually, I'm feeling a bit sorry for you Raj. It sucks when you've invested so much into a candidate only to see him fail. Your responses these days are full of rage. Have a healing trip to Mumbai and enjoy the family.


Sorry if I've added to your misery.

Peace.

icenine 06-27-2016 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 321153)
Sorry that I am annoying you Ice (but not Bob). Every time that Hillary won more votes than Bernie is brought up with reference to the general election, it is a meaningless statistic. Bob's post said "4 million more voters who prefer Clinton over another politician" and I called it nonsense. What if there were three instead of two? Would HRC have won 4 million more votes? Or if there were four? See how this number has no statistical significance?

Then I brought up the fact that as of today Hillary's popularity for President is at -55. Now tell me, how is this Hillary bashing other than that I responded to Bob's misplaced bravado regarding all things Hillary.

Planes have wifi, I have a smart phone................ :)

The same ballot I voted with had Sanders name on it...yet Hillary won California.:)

noonereal 06-28-2016 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 321103)
For crying out loud..... Which idiot thought it was going to be cheap??

Ever price going to the Olympics?

Or any other major event?

This is your rational? :confused:

noonereal 06-28-2016 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 321123)
Not my problem. Philly deserves any and all the money they can squeeze out of the convention. This is the Superbowl of politics. You pay to play/attend.

can't disagree but should a democracy function as such?

I think this more a philosophical discussion. Comparing a governing system to a sport event does not seem appropriate.

Either way I'll lose no sleep over it.

barbara 06-28-2016 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 321176)
can't disagree but should a democracy function as such?



I think this more a philosophical discussion. Comparing a governing system to a sport event does not seem appropriate.



Either way I'll lose no sleep over it.



It wasn't a comparison of a political event and a sporting event.

It was a comparison about how people think nothing of paying big bucks to go to a sporting event yet complain about comparable costs of attending a convention.

It was about the cost.... Not the event.

noonereal 06-28-2016 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 321184)
It wasn't a comparison of a political event and a sporting event.

It was a comparison about how people think nothing of paying big bucks to go to a sporting event yet complain about comparable costs of attending a convention.

It was about the cost.... Not the event.

... this is about people not being able to participate in democracy because of their financial limitations not unable to attend a sports events because of limited finances.

finnbow 06-28-2016 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 321186)
... this is about people not being able to participate in democracy because of their financial limitations not unable to attend a sports events because of limited finances.

Anytime there is a big event in a city (Mardi Grass, Jazz Fest, Superbowl, NCAA Final Four, Kentucky Derby, Indy 500, etc.), hotel rooms there get very expensive. Supply and demand.

whell 06-28-2016 08:20 AM

I think its a shame that the Dems are disenfranchising and marginalizing the poor like this. :p


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