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Zeke 06-06-2016 08:03 PM

AP says Hillary has enough for nomination.
 
Link coming, this was a "Breaking News Blast" from Yahoo on my phone.

LINK.

Rajoo 06-06-2016 08:41 PM

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. :)

Oerets 06-06-2016 09:00 PM

Interesting timing?



Barney

nailer 06-06-2016 09:28 PM

It's been obvious for quite a while that Hillary would be the nominee. IIRC bobabode shared an analysis demonstrating that Hillary could lose the remaining primaries and still have the nomination due to proportional division of state delegates.

bobabode 06-06-2016 09:33 PM

As the kids say, 'F**K that SH!T'.

I want to be the dope smokin' California hippie who puts the her over the top. :D

nailer 06-06-2016 09:45 PM

I thought you were a yippie.

icenine 06-06-2016 09:55 PM

This is great news!

Rajoo 06-06-2016 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 317423)
This is great news!.....

..........for the 1%.
They paid and she delivered.

bobabode 06-06-2016 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 317422)
I thought you were a yippie.

They took away my membership card when I turned 30. :(

Tom Joad 06-07-2016 07:35 AM

It's very obvious what the motivation for this is, coming on the eve of the June 7th primaries. To suppress the Sanders vote.

The Super delegates don't vote until the convention. Counting their votes now is tantamount to counting a poll as the final election results.

But the mainstream media, which is obviously in the tank for Hillary, has been doing this ever since the get go in order to portray Hillary as the inevitable nominee.

icenine 06-07-2016 09:06 AM

The announcement could also help Sanders since Clinton voters might stay home thinking they don't need to vote today. Neither campaign asked for this proclamation yesterday.

Tom Joad 06-07-2016 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 317465)
The announcement could also help Sanders since Clinton voters might stay home thinking they don't need to vote today. Neither campaign asked for this proclamation yesterday.

What a load of spin.

You actually expect people to buy that shit?:rolleyes:

merrylander 06-07-2016 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 317446)
But the mainstream media, which is obviously in the tank for Hillary, has been doing this ever since the get go in order to portray Hillary as the inevitable nominee.

Come on Tom, you don't actually believe this, or you have been following a different mainstream media than we have on this coast.:rolleyes:

nailer 06-07-2016 09:25 AM

You're right in that the media is an integral component of American Fascism.

icenine 06-07-2016 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 317466)
What a load of spin.

You actually expect people to buy that shit?:rolleyes:

Why would Hillary want to dampen her own turnout? She still need a big win this week to solidify her standing.

Tom Joad 06-07-2016 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 317474)
She still need a big win this week to solidify her standing.

Why?

She's already been declared the winner?

icenine 06-07-2016 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 317480)
Why?

She's already been declared the winner?

I voted by mail.

If I had not there would many things today saying skip the election.

My 110 round trip commute to work.
I won't get home tonight till 7 because of my IT class.
I only got 4 hours sleep.

So if I thought Hillary had won already I might not vote.
She needs California to make her look better as a front-runner and at the convention.

Rajoo 06-07-2016 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 317486)
She needs California to make her look better as a front-runner and at the convention.

It's not how many votes Hillary gets but how many more than Bernie is officially tallied. In other words if she does not poll enough to win, the fix will be in. It's happened again and again this primary season. :rolleyes:

merrylander 06-07-2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 317486)
I voted by mail.

If I had not there would many things today saying skip the election.

My 110 round trip commute to work.
I won't get home tonight till 7 because of my IT class.
I only got 4 hours sleep.

So if I thought Hillary had won already I might not vote.
She needs California to make her look better as a front-runner and at the convention.

Why does the government not insist that all eligible voters are given four hours before the polls close in which to vote, that's what we had in Canada.

Tom Joad 06-07-2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 317486)
She needs California to make her look better as a front-runner and at the convention.

Which is exactly why the corporate media called nomination for her.

To discourage Sanders voters.

Problem is, they just pissed us off and hardened our resolve.

Look for payback in November, it's coming.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...ay-in-hell.jpg

nailer 06-07-2016 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 317490)
Why does the government not insist that all eligible voters are given four hours before the polls close in which to vote, that's what we had in Canada.

Because we're not Canada and I thank god for that every night when I lay me down to sleep. :)

icenine 06-07-2016 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 317487)
It's not how many votes Hillary gets but how many more than Bernie is officially tallied. In other words if she does not poll enough to win, the fix will be in. It's happened again and again this primary season. :rolleyes:

Dude.
She won more states. She won more votes.

If Sanders was ahead you would not be saying one damned thing about a rigged election. Now it may be true that independents had more difficulty voting because of how different states run their primaries. But independents who may have wanted to vote for Hillary faced the same hurtles and Sanders should have educated his independent supporters better. Of course he may have been caught by surprise at his success.

nailer 06-07-2016 11:34 AM

I think the DNC was surprised too and the unsquare rigging was on.

Boreas 06-07-2016 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 317498)
Dude.
She won more states. She won more votes.

If Sanders was ahead you would not be saying one damned thing about a rigged election. Now it may be true that independents had more difficulty voting because of how different states run their primaries. But independents who may have wanted to vote for Hillary faced the same hurtles and Sanders should have educated his independent supporters better. Of course he may have been caught by surprise at his success.

You have no way of knowing whether he would or not so I can only assume that it reflects what you would do/are doing. It says more about you than it does Rajoo.

And, by the way, Bernie blows Clinton away with Independents. If all primaries were open, my guess its Bernie would already have over 2,383 in pledged delegates.

Rajoo 06-07-2016 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 317498)
Dude.
She won more states. She won more votes.

If Sanders was ahead you would not be saying one damned thing about a rigged election. Now it may be true that independents had more difficulty voting because of how different states run their primaries. But independents who may have wanted to vote for Hillary faced the same hurtles and Sanders should have educated his independent supporters better. Of course he may have been caught by surprise at his success.

He is the Dude, not me. :)

http://i61.tinypic.com/2rd9qhv.jpg

Now I have brought this up over and over here. Since the primaries are funded by the tax payers, every voter should have an equal opportunity. It's not Bernie's responsibility to educate the voters.

Tom Joad 06-07-2016 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 317498)
If Sanders was ahead you would not be saying one damned thing about a rigged election.

Of course not.

Bernie has too much integrity to rig an election.

Rajoo 06-07-2016 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 317507)
Of course not.

Bernie has too much integrity to rig an election.

And his supporters are idealistic and not the rotten selfish establishment types. :mad:

barbara 06-07-2016 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 317506)
He is the Dude, not me. :)



http://i61.tinypic.com/2rd9qhv.jpg



Now I have brought this up over and over here. Since the primaries are funded by the tax payers, every voter should have an equal opportunity. It's not Bernie's responsibility to educate the voters.



You are right... It's not Bernie's job to educate voters. But, if he wanted their votes, he could have done it anyway.

icenine 06-07-2016 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 317504)
You have no way of knowing whether he would or not so I can only assume that it reflects what you would do/are doing. It says more about you than it does Rajoo.

And, by the way, Bernie blows Clinton away with Independents. If all primaries were open, my guess its Bernie would already have over 2,383 in pledged delegates.

First of all I don't care what you think I am doing. Second of all being an independent voter dilutes your power. If there are millions of progressive independents who could not have voted for Sanders because of primary rules they should have been registered Democrats in the first place or have been smart enough to switch over in time. It is their responsibility to know the rules about primary voting.

Of course Sanders could have run as an independent...

Rajoo 06-07-2016 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbara (Post 317513)
You are right... It's not Bernie's job to educate voters. But, if he wanted their votes, he could have done it anyway.

Did Hillary had to educate her voters? Please think very carefully now and I am not talking about her campaigning.

MrPots 06-07-2016 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 317428)
..........for the 1%.
They paid and she delivered.

Yup. Time to let the dems and republicans fight it amongst themselves.... once again. Sooner or later the people are going to wise up to their game and realize neither party has done anything good for this country for nigh on 50 years.

barbara 06-07-2016 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 317518)
Did Hillary had to educate her voters? Please think very carefully now and I am not talking about her campaigning.




Think very carefully? You think you've got one over on me? 😏

I have no idea if she educated her voters.

I also have no idea how many voters would have voted for her if they had been educated.

But.... Same holds true for her.... If she wants their vote, and she feels they need to be educated.... She could do that too.


Ultimately, it is up to the voter to register as they want to be registered and to know the rules..... As it should be.

MrPots 06-07-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 317491)
Which is exactly why the corporate media called nomination for her.

To discourage Sanders voters.

Problem is, they just pissed us off and hardened our resolve.

Look for payback in November, it's coming.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...ay-in-hell.jpg

What's irritating though is that if Trump wins, it's the fault of the independents....if Hillary wins, it's the fault of the independent. Like the parties, the party's voters will refuse to take responsibility for their own weak and undesirable candidates.

MrPots 06-07-2016 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 317511)
And his supporters are idealistic and not the rotten selfish establishment types. :mad:

Someone in this country needs to be...seems any more the people of this country settle on whatever political trash is being put in front of them......without question.

merrylander 06-07-2016 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 317495)
Because we're not Canada and I thank god for that every night when I lay me down to sleep. :)

So do the Canadians.:)

merrylander 06-07-2016 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 317491)
Which is exactly why the corporate media called nomination for her.

To discourage Sanders voters.

Problem is, they just pissed us off and hardened our resolve.

Look for payback in November, it's coming.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...ay-in-hell.jpg

So you will cut of your nose to spite your face, how stupid can you get.

Zeke 06-07-2016 03:12 PM

If you've been reading, the answer -- in terms of depth and breadth -- is awe inspiring.

Bernie got beat. It's over.

That's reality.

catswiththum 06-07-2016 03:18 PM

Someone is going to make a fortune manufacturing little ceramic garden gnomes in his likeness.

bobabode 06-07-2016 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 317545)
If you've been reading, the answer -- in terms of depth and breadth -- is awe inspiring.

Bernie got beat. It's over.

That's reality.

By a country mile. :cool:

Boreas 06-07-2016 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 317549)
By a country mile. :cool:

What are you doing home? Shouldn't you be at the polls flipping votes?:D


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