Obama in Cuba
 

Presidential visits to any foreign country are heavily scripted, so the location and timing of this picture was no doubt placed on Obama's visit to Cuba following careful consideration and forethought.

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So, what is the takeaway from a US President allowing is picture to be taken in front of the Plaza de la Revolución in Havana with the visage of el Che in the background?

Why, he's a Marxist revolutionary, of course. Just like the Right Wing blowhards have been saying for 8 years!

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. In fact, if it makes the RW nippleheads over at Fox News lose their minds? It's a good day. :D

How much consideration and forethought do you suppose went into these?
 

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Recognizing that Ernesto is a Cuban hero?

Why not?

Che was awesome.

A real Hero of the common people.

I thought so too.....

He kicked out all the fucking capitalist who were raping the Cuban people back in the 50's.

We could use someone like him today.

Yeah, and now we're stuck with their miserable offspring. :mad:

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Well, I figured someone that created the Cuban labor camp system, who helped replace one miserable police state with another, and who had folks shot who disagreed with him was someone that you'd think was "awesome". :rolleyes:

Those exile Cubans and their relatives have been at the centers of many of our crucial events.

They punch way above their numbers crippling many presidents' policy initiatives.

Che has become a fashion statement.

History generally shows that successful revolutionaries make poor administrators, exceptions are rare. Beware of a taste for authoritarianism becoming tyranny.


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The truth is that Che was a great and charismatic revolutionary fighter but far too nuts to work in the government. Basically, Fidel and Raoul knew early on that they needed to get rid of him but he was too popular to purge. The solution they hit on was to give him tasks at which he would both chafe and fail, then convince him to leave Cuba and spread the revolution to other parts of the world.

So, the Cuban government came out the winners. They got rid of a seriously loose cannon (who also happened to smell very bad), spread the fame of the Cuban revolution around the world and, with his eventual death, had a martyr around which build the cult of Che.

The only difference between a dissident and a terrorist is 90 miles.

Which is precisely what was intended.

If he was white everyone would be doing high fives, like when Nixon went to China.

Have you noticed the GOP is not upset with Cuban immigration but hate immigration from the rest of Latin America? Cubans can stay as long as they reach our soil, automatically with no questions asked.

Wet Foot Dry Foot, one of the stupidest "immigration laws" ever, courtesy of Slick Willy.

I don't know how it is now, but when I went to the University of Florida in the late 60's the Cuban immigrants were getting to go there free. And I'm not talking just free tuition. They were also getting a generous living allowance that covered everything from beer to books. I know of one Cuban girl that was going there like that and do you know what her major was? Fucking Spanish that's what. Talk about a gimmee program!

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I see you've been brainwashed by the official US Government's line of shit.

Che never wanted to work in the government. He did for a while but his heart wasn't in it. No one had to convince him to leave Cuba and try to spread the revolution. That was what he wanted. As such he was a danger to US business interests in Latin America and beyond. For that reason he was hunted down and murdered by the US government.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/2/7...he_how_the_cia

Did you intend to provide a link that doesn't support your position?

And, even 4 years ago when that book was published, the fact that the CIA killed Che was really old news.

I've read all of Che's books.

By Che's books I mean the ones that were actually written by Che himself.

That's how you actually get to know the person.

Not by reading books and articles "about Che" written by people with an agenda.

Did you know that, in Bolivia at least, he was almost certainly being run by the Stasi? Did Che know? "Tania" was his controller.

It's about time the USA came to the realization Cuba here to stay, we failed. Time to extend a hand in friendship and spoil them with our Decadence. Once the tourist and cruse ships invade no putting the genie back into the bottle.

Time to give back gitmo, shut down the prison and get the trials over!
Barney

Another notch In Obama's belt.

I certainly understand why republicans hate him. He's the rock star they simply cannot produce.

Before he graduated as medical doctor Che toured Latin America and spent some time in a leper colony. What he saw on that tour affected him deeply.

The excellent movie "The Motor Cycle Diaries" dealt with that tour.

I'm gonna run over there with a suitcase full of cash & buy every 55-57 Chevy I can find.

Better take an interpreter. Those Cubanos don't speak redneck. ;)

Do they have any vintage Corvettes? :)
I could use a couple.

You have never heard of an English speaking student majoring in English?
Your comment about the Spanish major reveals your low information voterness
and susceptibility to Trumpism......:rolleyes:

Redneck???

red·neck

ˈredˌnek/Submit

noun NORTH AMERICAN informal derogatory
a working-class white person, especially a politically reactionary one from a rural area.
"rednecks in the high, cheap seats stomped their feet and hooted"

You a neck?

When are you going to learn to take a joke?

When you learn how to tell one...

The history lesson was unnecessary, nor does it answer the question. The defacto leader of the free world allowing himself to be photo op'ed under the likeness of the blood thirsty poster child for communism really doesn't strike you as a bit tone deaf, huh?

Screw the question and screw your hysterical rhetoric. They're both bullshit. The same people who are tearing their hair out over this visit think nothing of doing business with Saudi Arabia and say nothing about the public beheadings, lashings and disfigurements they inflict on their own people.

Has to be one of the most ill-informed (although maybe you were being purposefully obtuse?) posts ever. To compare Obama's visit to Cuba with Nixon's visit to China is either demagoguery or history revisionism.

At least until the Clinton administration, we had historically afforded Cubans who escaped Cuba and the Castro regime as refugees because to send the back was likely a death sentence. At least initially, many of these folks were not "illegal immigrants" but individuals fleeing from the likes of el Che and were granted political asylum. I hope you're not suggesting that most of the the folks coming over our southern border are political refugees and need to be granted asylum.

So, tell it to Obama. He likes to go to Saudi Arabia and bow to the "royals" there.

The question is legit, by the way. I just suspect you don't like the answer.

It's the question I don't like. Here's the only answer you're going to get: constructive engagement. You clowns loved it when St. Ronnie did it.

And it worked.