Political Correctness; A question........
 

I have a question for the group;

As I recall, when "political correctness" first appeared in the 1980-90s, it was basically seen as an attempt to silence opposition on clearly political issues, by the left. However, it appears to me that somewhere along the line, it has been turned by the right to silence any opposition from the left. Case in point;

In 1992, a person cries "racism". Someone expresses that they don't believe this situation is, in fact, racism. The left responds; "Ooooh, you can't say that!" before any facts are gathered and examined.

Fast forward;

In 2016, a person cries "racism". The right has a fit and shouts down the claim, before any facts are gathered and examined.

Now, who is being "PC"?

Moreover; How do you make the distinction between that which is a matter of political correctness and that which is a simple matter of common decency?

Our world seems to have filled up with idiots who find any objection to their ignorant statements and abhorrent behavior to be "political correctness".

Thoughts anyone?

My take is that in 2016 the term means that Trump can probably get away with the "N" word if he wanted too because he is not politically correct. That is why his followers love him...he can say things they believe deep down inside.

That is how I see the term in 2016.

As far as I'm concerned, nothing is correct about politics anymore.

I recall a time when it was acceptable to use a racial epithet in public. If political correctness changed that, it did a good thing.

I recall when it was acceptable to rely or racial or gender-based stereotypes to make a point. If political correctness has changed that, it did a good thing.

If political correctness prevents us from recognizing differences between cultures and recognizing that some things from other cultures are inconsistent with our values, I have issues with it.

The reaction from the right, that any identification of racism is racism in itself, is ridiculous.

However, the apparent assertion on the left that all opposition to President Obama is based on his race makes it easier for the right to reject all claims of racism.

I do believe that those who are members of a minority race are capable of racism in their own right. Identifying behavior of the part of others that is racially biased is not, however, evidence of such racism.

Anyone who believes that racism does not exist in America should hop on his unicorn and take a ride to Fantasyland.

Regards,

D-Ray

Bad audio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT2fsv7xt4E

Text:
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater

Being politically correct (which is also being socially correct) is to avoid expressing one's thoughts and feelings bluntly. This is usually done to avoid a social or economic backlash, but the feelings themselves have not changed. With the advent of social media, one can now express their feelings without fear of any retribution so long as we are politically correct in public.

Political correctness is the technique of saying the unacceptable in acceptable terms. That's why I posted the Atwater quote.

What's politically correct depends on which side of the aisle one resides. It's also different things to different people, just like happiness.

Usually governed by a fear of being hammered by the public for such expressions.

Trump has no such inhibition and therefore in today talk ... He is not PC.

Words evolve.

Fear is a key in obtaining, expanding and maintaining power.

Trump's perceives that he has nothing to fear from the PCers. I think he's correct.

This used to be called tact, manners and grace.

He's correct if it is not his goal to win a majority of the vote in a fair general election....

Some people like Trump because he is not politically correct. Non-political correctness is the mantra of the well-entitled but disaffected class of Americans who don't want to share with those that are "different." Or as someone told me in the OR at my part-time job "the free stuff." I am sure there are middle-aged and younger people who feel the same way, especially in an economy like this one, with companies moving assembly plants to Mexico.

Mr. Trump has redefined political correctness. :)

Fixed that for ya. ;)

Quite correct. The campaign against "PC" is just an excuse for self-identified assholes to be rude and offensive using the 1st amendment as an excuse.

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1. Initially, 'political correctness' was a demand from someone with some power to back it up that others conform to doctrine. So it was authoritarian and bad.
2. Wing nuts took this 'label of badness' and have applied it to ANY call for people to have some concern in their speech for civility and consideration.

Yup, it was Hillary.

No it wasn't.

Sure it was...

That tough old hippie is living in your head, dude.

As always, I appreciate your words.

The most racial stuff I have dealt with relates to being an American Indian and the idea that, due to race, I am supposed to agree with the idea that the ongoing "plight" of Natives -- at this point -- is caused by anyone but Natives.

By virtue of possessing multiple degrees, believing that daily employment is good, and that Leonard Peltier should rot in Federal prison implies that I am not "traditionally Native."

I wasn't aware that being traditional indicated I needed to faux up a relationship with land (many reservations tribes cling to is not even their ancestral homeland), criminal activity, excuses and failure to thrive due to things that occurred prior to any Indian alive today being born.

Fuck'em.

It annoys.

Actually, I heard that case zero was a professor at the Univ. of Michigan, who noted on a student's paper that such and such was 'politically incorrect.' Or so goes the legend.

Hillary, AFAIK, has not been a professor anywhere.

Hillary did it.

Sure she did. :rolleyes:

Soon it will be Prison Correctness.

No Obama has already told the Justice Department and FBI to destroy all the evidence:rolleyes::rolleyes:

dj is in top form. :D

You exude a deep hate of self.

Does one have to hate onself to despise what others of his clan, race, or class have done? I think not. I am sickened by many things that old white guys have done. I have become an old white guy, but I am satisfied with many of the things I have done with my life. (I spend a lot of my time trying to keep rich rich white guys (a generalization, I know) from taking advantage of the people who work for them.) Many many things I would like to do better, and there are many things I wish I had accomplished; but knowing my failings along with my successes does not equate to self hate.

Regards,

D-Ray

Zeke is constant and absolute.

I'm thinking the above statements are what it really boils down to in todays environment. Or like my sister told me, recently; "It's like we managed to keep the assholes somewhat bottled up for forty years or so. But now they've busted out and taken over the Republican Party.".

I agree, Don. I hate the way some old white folks behave and the way folks from other ethnicities expect the same loathsome behavior from me, because I'm an old white guy.

You've got it backwards. All the politically correct assholes and scumbags are in the Dem party and progressive movement. Not that there aren't any in the GOP but everyone on the left is pretty much worthless, collectivist scum.

“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.”

— William Shakespeare, Henry VI, Part 2

...and especially old white ones. ;)

lol

Honest, hate like this needs professional help. Feel free to PM me.

peace brother

they were always there, Bush gave them a voice in th late 90's and then others noticed and rallied them into a political force of opposition.

Flying under the moniker of "Real American" they'd rather burn the country to the ground than do what is best for America.

It's pretty interesting and more proof of the failed nature of the human species.

I'll set both parties aside and state that ALL the people of this country, every fucking last one of them have become hateful, greedy, selfish and intolerant. All of them. With wealth comes these things and it's made America a very ugly place. A country of losers who put themselves before anything else. Proof...the only things at which this country excell's is war and hate.

We don't educate, we don't heal. We don't feed or comfort. We imprison. We destroy. We take and take and take until there is no more to take and then we look for new victims.

This is why our country will never be "great" again.

^^^^ Mighty broad brush there.

It's all I see in this country any more.