We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

[merrylander]

And you don't driill offshore in the Arctic whhere the weather changes hourly. Look at all the plane crashes in Alaska, simply because of unpredictable weather.

[piece-itpete]

Finn, is there such a thing as certainty?

Pete

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I'm not anti-drilling. For the record, my Masters in Structural Engineering from Tulane University in New Orleans was primarily focused on the design of offshore structures. I studied under the primary designer of Shell's famous Cognac rig, the winner of multiple design awards for offshore structures. I have considerable experience in the design of oil rigs.

The fact remains that the BP misadventure demonstrably proved that we are far more capable of drilling in deep water than we are of capping blowouts in water a mile deep.

I'm not saying you are. However, I have no clue why this Administration believes approaches domestic energy policy leading with the phrase "We have to break our addiction to oil", and then trying to break that "addiction" without any cost - effective substitutes available. Then while trying to "break our addiction", we're funding Brazil's addiction? Makes less than zero sense.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Finn, is there such a thing as certainty?

Pete

Nope, other than if you drill in water a mile deep without a failsafe system to stop blowouts, you're pretty certain to encounter problems. Think about it. After the blowout, the entire industry, knowing its reputation/profitability was on the line, pitched in with men, materials, and machines and it still took forever to plug the well.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Nope, other than if you drill in water a mile deep without a failsafe system to stop blowouts, you're pretty certain to encounter problems. Think about it. After the blowout, the entire industry, knowing its reputation/profitability was on the line, pitched in with men, materials, and machines and it still took forever to plug the well.

yep and profits were as high as ever, the little paid

who needs government?

[d-ray657]

The discussion of increasing domestic oil production or having inexpensive energy alternatives makes a huge assumption that it is wise to continue to consume energy at our current level. It is not.

Regards,

D-Ray

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

The discussion of increasing domestic oil production or having inexpensive energy alternatives makes a huge assumption that it is wise to continue to consume energy at our current level. It is not.

Regards,

D-Ray

Ah, c'mon. We only use 3 times as much oil as China (or over 12 times as much per capita). If we tried harder, we could make it 4 or 5 times as much.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/en...il-consumption

FYI, we use more than twice as much oil per capita as Germany and still have a lower quality of live.

http://internationalliving.com/2010/...-of-life-2010/

Drill, baby drill.

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

The discussion of increasing domestic oil production or having inexpensive energy alternatives makes a huge assumption that it is wise to continue to consume energy at our current level. It is not.

Regards,

D-Ray

Cool. So we give Brazil billions so they can reach our level of consumption, and we just choke ourselves off without any viable alternatives to oil. Is that our plan?

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Ah, c'mon. We only use 3 times as much oil as China (or over 12 times as much per capita). If we tried harder, we could make it 4 or 5 times as much.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/en...il-consumption

FYI, we use more than twice as much oil per capita as Germany and still have a lower quality of live.

http://internationalliving.com/2010/...-of-life-2010/

Drill, baby drill.

To be fair, IIRC, Germany's population density is considerably higher than the US, which would seem to make mass transit more feasible. Please correct me if I am wrong.

In the time you lived there, did you notice whether suburban sprawl was anywhere close to what it is here? Does your son ever comment on it?

Regards,

D-Ray

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Ah, c'mon. We only use 3 times as much oil as China (or over 12 times as much per capita). If we tried harder, we could make it 4 or 5 times as much.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/en...il-consumption

FYI, we use more than twice as much oil per capita as Germany and still have a lower quality of live.

http://internationalliving.com/2010/...-of-life-2010/

Drill, baby drill.

I wonder how many Germanies could fit within the boarders of the CONUS?