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06-12-2018, 02:38 PM
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06-12-2018, 03:15 PM
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Indeed. Yet the wingnuts trust them without question. Despicable.
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06-12-2018, 03:30 PM
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Leave it to you guys to leave out one, tiny little element of fact. The "game changer" in all of this was the acceleration of North Korea's ballistic missile development which now includes the ability to hit U.S. targets, potentially with nuclear payloads. That scenario didn't exist when Obama was Prez.
On the other hand, Obama's "Iran template" - give away the farm and get little in return - should never have been used as a starting point to reach a deal with NK.
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06-12-2018, 03:54 PM
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You’re missing the fact that Faux “News” is full of bloviating hypocrites, just like you. The fact that you continue to defend Donny and his propaganda machine says everything. You are a complete idiot.
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06-12-2018, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Leave it to you guys to leave out one, tiny little element of fact. The "game changer" in all of this was the acceleration of North Korea's ballistic missile development which now includes the ability to hit U.S. targets, potentially with nuclear payloads. That scenario didn't exist when Obama was Prez.
On the other hand, Obama's "Iran template" - give away the farm and get little in return - should never have been used as a starting point to reach a deal with NK.
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I predict that your Dear Leader won't come close to doing as well as Obama did on Iran.
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06-12-2018, 09:16 PM
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If Obama had held this summit, we know how the GOP would’ve reacted
Let us ponder what the reaction among Republicans and conservatives would have been if President Barack Obama had done what President Trump did on Tuesday:
● Sat down with a dictator whose regime had killed hundreds of thousands of people and who tortures and enslaves as many as 130,000 political prisoners in gulags.
● Set no specific preconditions for the meeting and secured no commitment on human rights nor any firm promise to denuclearize.
● Blindsided allies by agreeing to the dictator’s request to cease “provocative” military exercises with those allies.
● Praised the dictator in lavish terms: “very talented man . . . wants to do the right thing . . . very worthy, very smart negotiator . . . excellent relationship . . . funny guy . . . loves his people . . . great personality . . . a great honor . . . very special bond . . . I do trust him.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...bbe_story.html
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06-12-2018, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Let us ponder what the reaction among Republicans and conservatives would have been if President Barack Obama had done what President Trump did on Tuesday:
● Sat down with a dictator whose regime had killed hundreds of thousands of people and who tortures and enslaves as many as 130,000 political prisoners in gulags.
● Set no specific preconditions for the meeting and secured no commitment on human rights nor any firm promise to denuclearize.
● Blindsided allies by agreeing to the dictator’s request to cease “provocative” military exercises with those allies.
● Praised the dictator in lavish terms: “very talented man . . . wants to do the right thing . . . very worthy, very smart negotiator . . . excellent relationship . . . funny guy . . . loves his people . . . great personality . . . a great honor . . . very special bond . . . I do trust him.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...bbe_story.html
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It would've been the meltdown to end all meltdowns. Conservatives in congress would be gnashing their teeth and gnawing on the furniture, all across the conservative infotainment industry there would howling, screeching and wailing. It would've been epic.
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06-13-2018, 05:15 AM
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The Corrupblican Party almost hourly shows their true colors. It is all about getting their way, the how matter's little. Seem all to willing to accept just about anything as long as they are in control all the levers of power. So the use of propaganda outright lies seems accepted by the masses because it is the truth wanting to be believed so is.
It is something needing to understood, the country of a few years ago is gone now forever. The new country in the middle of birthing pains right now is based on not Hope and Dreams but Fears and Nightmares.
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