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Old 05-14-2018, 09:24 AM
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A Vox analysis of hiring records for seasonal workers at three Trump properties in New York and Florida revealed that only one out of 144 jobs went to a US worker from 2016 to the end of 2017. Foreign guest workers with H-2B visas got the rest.

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/164665...-guest-workers
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:48 AM
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Au contraire, dimwit. You have once again today revealed your cluelessness when it comes to economic matters.
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Old 05-14-2018, 11:50 AM
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Au contraire, dimwit. You have once again today revealed your cluelessness when it comes to economic matters.
Au contraire, slop jar.

Funny how all the news reports just a couple months ago were about the threats to immigration / utilization of high skilled immigrants - "the best and brightest from other countries" - just because Trump ordered a review of the H1-B Visa program. That was going to be "baaaaaad".

Now, here you are suggesting duplicity because of expansions to the H2-B program that happened last year, and oh my that's baaaaaad. And this isn't a new story, by the way. Your favorite paper talked about this last year. Vox just sat on it for a year and then pulled it out again when Trump's casinos this month began the seasonal hiring THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE.

Oh, speaking of duplicity: I think its absolutely hilarious that you linked to a story from Vox after complaining that I linked to a story from CNS.

You're still the same old tool.

That said, still wondering why you guys complain about this and at the same time complain about low wages in other countries. Wanna try dealing with that rather than try to dig up old red herrings?

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Old 05-14-2018, 12:17 PM
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Useless post that has nothing to do with my point.
I posted the fact that Trump widely uses H-2B visas in a thread on his policies restricting H-2B visas for others. Only to a truth-averse Trump sycophant is this somehow irrelevant.
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Old 05-14-2018, 12:39 PM
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Au contraire, slop jar.

Funny how all the news reports just a couple months ago were about the threats to immigration / utilization of high skilled immigrants - "the best and brightest from other countries" - just because Trump ordered a review of the H1-B Visa program. That was going to be "baaaaaad".

Now, here you are suggesting duplicity because of expansions to the H2-B program that happened last year, and oh my that's baaaaaad. And this isn't a new story, by the way. Your favorite paper talked about this last year. Vox just sat on it for a year and then pulled it out again when Trump's casinos this month began the seasonal hiring THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE.

Oh, speaking of duplicity: I think its absolutely hilarious that you linked to a story from Vox after complaining that I linked to a story from CNS.

You're still the same old tool.

That said, still wondering why you guys complain about this and at the same time complain about low wages in other countries. Wanna try dealing with that rather than try to dig up old red herrings?
No matter how much you try to throw in some actual discussion, always with you the real the real topic is how dumb and wrong you say we are, and how dumb and wrong we say you are. I have my opinion about who's wrong. As for dumb, I don't know, it's seems possible to me that you know your arguments are often dumb, but you don't care because the main thing is to argue. In fact, you may prefer dumb arguments because they are more irritating.

This one truly is a useless post, but since I went to the trouble to write it, here it is.
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Old 05-14-2018, 01:02 PM
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Old 05-14-2018, 01:13 PM
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I posted the fact that Trump widely uses H-2B visas in a thread on his policies restricting H-2B visas for others. Only to a truth-averse Trump sycophant is this somehow irrelevant.
Your post was irrelevant to my question, which you apparently have no answer for.

Specifically what policies, by the way, are restricting such visas? For years, the H-2B visa regulations have limited the number of visas to 66,000 per year. As I pointed out previously, Trump last year actually increased the number of allowed H-2B visa recipients for 2017, and your favorite paper ran out and found people who criticized it as "too little to late".

So, specifically, tell me what "policies" are "restricting H-2B visa for others? Or are you just bitching because DHS hasn't yet announced whether or not they'll repeat last year's action to increased the number of allowed visas?
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Old 05-14-2018, 03:20 PM
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So, specifically, tell me what "policies" are "restricting H-2B visa for others? Or are you just bitching because DHS hasn't yet announced whether or not they'll repeat last year's action to increased the number of allowed visas?
You can be sure that your Trumpenfuhrer will get his foreign workers for his Florida properties and Virginia vineyard, while the farmers and crabbers who make up his constituency are out of luck. Sad.
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Old 05-14-2018, 03:25 PM
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You can be sure that your Trumpenfuhrer will get his foreign workers for his Florida properties and Virginia vineyard, while the farmers and crabbers who make up his constituency are out of luck. Sad.
So, here's what I'm taking from your posts:

- You're unable or unwilling to answer my questions.
- You're speculatively claiming that the Trump administration, or Trump himself, will somehow intervene in the H-2B visa process to assure that his resorts get their H-2B applications approved for 2018, even though there's no evidence or allegation that he did so last year (and in fact approved the increase in allowable H-2B visas in 2017 after his operations would need to have the temporary workers hired and trained in time for the start of the resort's busy season.

...and than you call other folks "wing nuts".
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So, here's what I'm taking from your posts:

- You're unable or unwilling to answer my questions.
- You're speculatively claiming that the Trump administration, or Trump himself, will somehow intervene in the H-2B visa process to assure that his resorts get their H-2B applications approved for 2018, even though there's no evidence or allegation that he did so last year (and in fact approved the increase in allowable H-2B visas in 2017 after his operations would need to have the temporary workers hired and trained in time for the start of the resort's busy season.

...and than you call other folks "wing nuts".
Yeh, your Trumpenfuhrer would never intervene in such matters, though Rudy just said that he did in the AT&T case. Of course, Rudy is denying saying what he just said.
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