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07-08-2022, 09:48 AM
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This is rather chilling...
From the AP:
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — As missed warning signs pile up in investigations of mass killings, New York state is rolling out a novel strategy to screen applicants for gun permits. People seeking to carry concealed handguns will be required to hand over their social media accounts for a review of their “character and conduct.”
Look, no one wants to see these instances of gun violence continue. But, having bureaucrats in the NY State gov't responsible for evaluating an individual's “character and conduct” sounds like starting down a path towards something like Communist China's social credit scoring system.
Looks like privacy only matters to some folks when talking about "abortion rights".
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07-08-2022, 10:02 AM
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I assume you can just take the fifth. And taking the fifth can not be held against you.
Also, when I applied for a job about 6 years ago, I made my Facebook account hidden and deleted almost all my posts. After I got the jobs, the ladies there admitted they checked out my facebook account before they hired me. That was also the job I retired from so this sort of thing is irrelevant to me. That's also true because I live in Kentucky.
But I don't do Facebook any more. In fact, I'm not on ANY social media that has my actual name attached to it. I even use "garbage" email accounts to access them. So I don't really exist on social media.
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07-08-2022, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
From the AP:
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — As missed warning signs pile up in investigations of mass killings, New York state is rolling out a novel strategy to screen applicants for gun permits. People seeking to carry concealed handguns will be required to hand over their social media accounts for a review of their “character and conduct.”
Look, no one wants to see these instances of gun violence continue. But, having bureaucrats in the NY State gov't responsible for evaluating an individual's “character and conduct” sounds like starting down a path towards something like Communist China's social credit scoring system.
Looks like privacy only matters to some folks when talking about "abortion rights".
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This wouldn't be occurring were it not for the SCOTUS prohibiting the appropriate regulation of firearms in NY. You reap what you sow.
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07-08-2022, 10:50 AM
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Since when is a public forum exempt from part of being a background check, and why not?
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07-08-2022, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
From the AP:
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Looks like privacy only matters to some folks when talking about "abortion rights".
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Why is abortion left to each individual state to regulate but not gun ownership?
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07-08-2022, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
This wouldn't be occurring were it not for the SCOTUS prohibiting the appropriate regulation of firearms in NY. You reap what you sow.
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1) In fact, the SCOTUS ruling came AFTER the Buffalo NY shooting. Once again, this demonstrates that an individual intent on breaking the law and committing murder on any scale, much less what happened in Buffalo, isn't going to stop and consult local gun laws before they start shooting.
2) The SCOTUS has NOT prohibited the APPROPRIATE regulation of firearms in NY. They did peel back an overly restrictive carry law. In fact, the SCOTUS ruling in the NY case affirms appropriate legislation such as “fingerprinting, a background check, a mental health records check, and training in firearms handling, and in laws regarding the use of force.”
Last edited by whell; 07-08-2022 at 01:37 PM.
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07-08-2022, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
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Why is abortion left to each individual state to regulate but not gun ownership?
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Where are you getting this idea? Most states have their own set of firearms regulations.
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07-08-2022, 03:25 PM
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Quote:
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Why is abortion left to each individual state to regulate but not gun ownership?
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Guns are in the constitution. Abortion is not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m55zo85IvA
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07-08-2022, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
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This wouldn't be occurring were it not for the SCOTUS prohibiting the appropriate regulation of firearms in NY. You reap what you sow.
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HAHAHA! Define "apropriate". You can regulate all you want - as long as it doesn't violate the constitution.
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07-08-2022, 03:28 PM
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Since when is a public forum exempt from part of being a background check, and why not?
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I went through a background check to get a job with the FDIC a while back. It was incredibly intrusive. They interviewed, IN PERSON, my family and friends. But getting that job was not a constitutional right. The only thing a background check to legally own a gun can do is check your "legal" or "criminal" background, if any.
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