Roe v Wade: The lighter side

[whell]

Originally Posted by Chicks

You must be mistaking me for your pals in Reich-wing "News".

No, no one in the "news business" posted that graphic in response to my comments. YOU did.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

No, it's not paramount. However, it certainly is logical and correct to say that if the guy never got in the country in the first place, the likelihood of us publicly discussing this sad story would be much, much closer to zero.

His immigration status is not relevant and is a deliberate attempt to deflect from the fact that the right-wing infotainment complex went into overdrive to lie about this case because it makes the Right look like heartless, hypocritical clowns.

This whole hideous episode has demonstrated the extent to which conservatives are unwilling to grapple with the reality of the abortion regime they are imposing on much of the country. There is nothing wrong with seeing a single-source news report and deciding you want to withhold judgment until more information emerges. But that’s not what happened here. Instead there was sneering incredulity, as if a raped 10-year-old being denied an abortion wasn’t an inevitable consequence of an abortion ban without a rape exception.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/14/o...-abortion.html

[Rajoo]

I was reading the link Finn just posted and going to expand on it. Faux News at their best.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ews-criticism/

First this from Watters:

So, where do we stand? If there’s a 10-year-old child abuser out there on the streets of Ohio, he needs to be brought to justice. And if so-called doctors are covering up child rape, they need to be prosecuted. But if this horrific story isn’t accurate, and the abortion doctor and the Indianapolis Star are misleading us and the mainstream media and the president of the United States seizing on another hoax, then this is absolutely shameful, and fits a pretty dangerous pattern of politically timed disinformation.

And then this from Emily Compagno:

“There’s no shortage of 10-year-old rape victims,” panel member Emily Compagno said on Tuesday’s program. “There’s victims from infants through the elderly — both genders. There is more than you can count. There are so many monsters out there. So for me what I find so deeply offensive is that they had to make up a fake one. There’s actually so many, there are countless real ones that I would love for them to use as advocacy for law and order.”

And finally the T'Fucker gets into the act:

Tucker Carlson said, “Why did the Biden administration — speaking of lying — just repeat a story about a 10-year-old child who got pregnant and they got an abortion or was not allowed to get an abortion when it turns out the story’s not true?”

Now they are busy wiping eggs off their faces. Here is another item detailing the events.

He is originally from Guatemala. He entered the U.S. illegally, a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesperson told The Daily Beast.
He is 5’3″ tall. His registered weight is 140 pounds.
In 2015, he moved to Columbus, Ohio where he had a steady job at a café.
On May 12, 2022, he allegedly impregnated a girl, then 9.
On June 22, 2022, the mother of the girl he allegedly impregnated filed a referral with the Franklin County Children Services, informing the Columbus Police Department about the girl’s pregnancy. That day, the girl referenced him as the suspect who raped her.
On June 30, 2022, the girl he allegedly impregnated underwent a medical abortion in Indianapolis, Indiana, USA. The girl, who just turned 10, was helped by Dr. Caitlin Bernard.
On July 12, 2022, Ohio detectives Jeffrey Huhn and David Phillips served him with a warrant to obtain a buccal swab. That day, he was arrested and booked into the Franklin County Jail in Columbus.
He was 27 years old when he was arrested on July 12, 2022. His last known address before the arrest was an apartment on Northwest Side in Columbus.
He admitted to authorities that he raped the girl on at least two occasions, Huhn testified in his arraignment in the Franklin County Common Pleas Court in Columbus on July 13, 2022. He was charged with rape of a child under 13 and ordered held on a $2 million bond.
He is scheduled for a preliminary hearing on July 22, 2022.

The this saga officially began on June 22, 2022 and Faux is calling this a hoax?

https://conandaily.com/2022/07/13/ge...columbus-ohio/

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

No, it's not paramount. However, it certainly is logical and correct to say that if the guy never got in the country in the first place, the likelihood of us publicly discussing this sad story would be much, much closer to zero. Why does that bother you so much?

I'd much rather we weren't talking about it at all. Also note that I'm not the one who brought this story up.

So only illegal Guatemalan males rape young girls?

If a legal resident in Ohio had raped this girl of 10 years, the outcome would have been different? This girl could have got an abortion in Ohio? Under what exception since there are none?

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by whell

But...you leave out a pretty significant point. If our borders were more secure and we were intent on enforcing immigration law, this rape may never have happened. The perp was in the country illegally.

Preventing crimes, be it this case or any other, involves an honest look at all the facts surrounding the criminal act. In this case, a preventive measure would have been protecting US citizens from risks associated with having a porous border.

Since we're never going to eliminate all illegal immigration what's your point. Also you can't call the story a lie without saying the girl is a liar too and their were a lot of conservative Repubs and elected officials saying the story was false/a lie.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

His immigration status is not relevant and is a deliberate attempt to deflect from the fact that the right-wing infotainment complex went into overdrive to lie about this case because it makes the Right look like heartless, hypocritical clowns.

You say it's not relevant? Hmmm... OK. Here's a very simple question to demonstrate how relevant it is.

The perp in this case is blocked from entry into the US, never gets in the country, and never sets foot in Ohio. Does he rape this poor girl? The obvious answer is no.

And the NY Times story you linked simply underscores my point earlier about how this girl's story is being hijacked to advance the pro-choice narrative. The lying, hypocritical clowns include anyone willing to continue to exploit this girl for that purpose.

[Chicks]

Indiana Dr. Caitlin Bernard reported 10-year-old Ohio girl's abortion, records show

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/...d/65373626007/

Yet another lie by Whell's favorite Reich-wing "News" propagandists outed. The good doctor followed the law by reporting this tragic incident.

[barbara]

It's true, Whell, tighter immigration laws could have kept that particular perpetrator out of the country and away from that ten year old girl.

But, that fact does not take away from the fact that there will be another person, of any age, raped and possibly impregnated again.....and again.......and again. There are legal citizens in the United States that are rapists and they will continue to be no matter what we do with our immigration laws.

What we need to protect people from rape and a resulting pregnancy is not better immigration laws, but, rather, laws that hold the rapist accountable and laws that allow a person to terminate a pregnancy caused by rape.

[Oerets]

The very fact alone, the big issue for some is the immigration status. No compassion for the 10 year victim.

Speaks volumes of exactly who they are.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by barbara

It's true, Whell, tighter immigration laws could have kept that particular perpetrator out of the country and away from that ten year old girl.

But, that fact does not take away from the fact that there will be another person, of any age, raped and possibly impregnated again.....and again.......and again. There are legal citizens in the United States that are rapists and they will continue to be no matter what we do with our immigration laws.

What we need to protect people from rape and a resulting pregnancy is not better immigration laws, but, rather, laws that hold the rapist accountable and laws that allow a person to terminate a pregnancy caused by rape.

Understand that Whell and his far-Reich pals want to tie EVERYTHING to immigration. It's what they do. Their bigotry won't allow them not to do so.