Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

That's not going to happen.

The fix is in, Wilson is going to walk.

And another Cop gets away with a street execution.

http://news.yahoo.com/evidence-struggle-131349740.html

If by "fix" you mean two independent autopsy reports supporting Wilson's account as well as other evidence at the scene contradicting -- well known as fallible -- eyewitness accounts.

If by "fix," you mean an officer wholly in the right protecting himself from an entitlement robber filled with illegal narcotics...

"Fix?"

GET REAL.

1. I'm right.
2. You're not.

CONFIRMED.

From the article: "Police officers are generally given the right to respond with lethal force once they feel their life is in danger, and the Times added the federal officials think a civil rights charge against Wilson is also unlikely, given the high standards needed to file one."

Are we done here?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

That's sort of like saying I have ignored requests to prove that water is wet.

I am sure you can fathom at least a single situation where the use of deadly force is warranted in the damning hypothetical you keep trying to generate.

Am I crediting you too much?

Cute evasion. It is not at all like proving water is wet. I didn't even ask you to prove anything.

Anyway, you are wary of sharing this information I'm sure you know very well. Wonder why?

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Cute evasion. It is not at all like proving water is wet. I didn't even ask you to prove anything.

Anyway, you are wary of sharing this information I'm sure you know very well. Wonder why?

1. Because it's too easy.
2. I've detailed knowledge from jump.
3. I did give potential reasons at one point.
4. It devolved into me being the only person who'd ever heard of the Teuller Drill.
5. What's the point?

Wonder why?

Your unwillingness to "get it."

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Zeke

If by "fix" you mean two independent autopsy reports supporting Wilson's account as well as other evidence at the scene contradicting -- well known as fallible -- eyewitness accounts.

If by "fix," you mean an officer wholly in the right protecting himself from an entitlement robber filled with illegal narcotics...

"Fix?"

GET REAL.

1. I'm right.
2. You're not.

CONFIRMED.

From the article: "Police officers are generally given the right to respond with lethal force once they feel their life is in danger, and the Times added the federal officials think a civil rights charge against Wilson is also unlikely, given the high standards needed to file one."

Are we done here?

Let's see, someone tries to wrestle my gun away from me.

In that process he gets shot, twice, then runs away.

I now have my weapon drawn and ready to fire and my attacker is 20 feet away, unarmed, and woumded.

Now, somehow or another, I'm supposed to be in fear for my life and justified in firing my weapon until he's flat on the ground and not moving?

Not in my world.

[donquixote99]

I want to know more about this autopsy report that says all of Brown's wounds were rendered at 'close range.' Close range meaning what? How close is close?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

1. Because it's too easy.
2. I've detailed knowledge from jump.
3. I did give potential reasons at one point.
4. It devolved into me being the only person who'd ever heard of the Teuller Drill.
5. What's the point?

Wonder why?

Your unwillingness to "get it."

Oh come on. You're in full on advocacy mode, you argue in front of and beyond the evidence all the damn time, you go ad hom a lot, and the problem is my unwillingness to 'get it?'

All I want is some truth. Just give me some truth.

What you should have figured out by now is I'll get it when you do, and I won't let you get by with less.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I want to know more about this autopsy report that says all of Brown's wounds were rendered at 'close range.' Close range meaning what? How close is close?

I want to know how someone who is unarmed, 20 feet away, and wounded, is a mortal threat to someone with a drawn and ready to fire .40 caliber handgun.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I want to know how someone who is unarmed, 20 feet away, and wounded, is a mortal threat to someone with a drawn and ready to fire .40 caliber handgun.

If he's charging. Not otherwise. And I know of no actual evidence that he was charging, and witness accounts all say he was not.

The autopsy results say two wounds were close range. Not news. We've always known that there were shots while Wilson was in the car.

The report that 'all' wounds were close range seems to me at this time to be a distortion. And i have not seen detailed substantiation for the claim that it was somehow impossible for Brown to have his hands up.

[icenine]

I think Wilson was running toward Brown as he fired...no?

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I want to know how someone who is unarmed, 20 feet away, and wounded, is a mortal threat to someone with a drawn and ready to fire .40 caliber handgun.

Thinking as Officer Wilson, I want to know how a robbery suspect significantly larger than me, who has just attacked me and is still standing (charging?) within a car length isn't a threat to me or the public at large?

If you have to fire, you fire until the threat is neutralized.

It's the same reason Rodney King kept getting beat. He was immense and wouldn't stay down. Training? Continue until compliance.

Simple. Justified. GOOD SHOOT.