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Old 01-02-2017, 07:53 AM
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Uh huh. Right. Whatever...
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Old 01-02-2017, 09:07 AM
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You changed "ineligible at the caucuses" to "illegals at the polls" with deliberate purpose, to claim more than you should. You are basically a lying shit, and you will never admit it.

The Washtington Post went with wrong information they had reason to believe, with no deliberate purpose to deceive. They admit and correct their error. They remain worth reading. You never are.
...but you keep reading, don't cha? Must be that you need to check every so often to make sure your mind remains closed.

Oh, by the way, I did originally post using the work ineligible to refer to those CO voters. If, in fact, Hillary and company was correct, I think its pretty safe to assume that within that pool of ineligible voters there were also illegal aliens. You may disagree, but last I checked there were about 180,000 or so illegals in CO. I'm sure that the Obama crew could find a few of those 180K that would go to the polls for them. And if they did vote, and Obama was elected, Barry wouldn't object.
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Old 01-02-2017, 10:32 AM
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Old 01-07-2017, 03:12 PM
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Unlike the OP, I will post some real "fake news," this time courtesy of Breitbart, former home of Trump's chief advisor:

BERLIN — It was every God-fearing Christian’s worst nightmare about Muslim refugees. “Revealed,” the Breitbart News headline screamed, “1,000-Man Mob Attack Police, Set Germany’s Oldest Church Alight on New Year’s Eve.”

The only problem: Police say that’s not what happened that night in the western city of Dortmund.

The Breitbart report has triggered a backlash in Germany, igniting fresh concerns over the manipulation of information and the societal cost of revenue-generating clickbait...

As they did in the United States during the presidential campaign, fake and misleading reports are popping up across Europe, particularly as a string of countries including Germany are poised for major elections. Yet the Breitbart report on Germany, critics say, shows how the disseminators of such tidbits trade not only in pure fiction but also in skillfully sown innuendo steeped in exaggeration.

“We shook our heads in disbelief when we saw how this operation was politicized” by Breitbart, said Gunnar Wortmann, a spokesman for the Dortmund police.

The report was largely aggregated from the local news outlet Ruhr Nachrichten, which also lashed out at Breitbart for “using our online reports for fake news, hate and propaganda.” ...

Breitbart — formerly headed by Trump’s top aide, Stephen K. Bannon — did not respond to a request for comment.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...5b3_story.html

I wonder if Michael Flynn is busy tweeting about this to all the rubes who believe this nonsense.
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:49 AM
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So, I actually read the WaPo link you posted. I also read the Brietbart story, which bears little resemblance to the hysterical Wapo story. I also read - thanks to Google Translate - the article in German the the Brietbart story was allegedly sourced from. I also read about the supposed " backlash in Germany": an article penned by a U.S. national who appears to be a big time lefty journalist.

Conclusion - the WaPo hysteria - possibly fueled by the lefty journalist - and the article by the lefty journalist - has a barely passing resemblance to the Breitbart story. In other words, you and WaPo are fulla crap again Finn.
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Old 01-09-2017, 11:54 AM
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So, I actually read the WaPo link you posted. I also read the Brietbart story, which bears little resemblance to the hysterical Wapo story. I also read - thanks to Google Translate - the article in German the the Brietbart story was allegedly sourced from. I also read about the supposed " backlash in Germany": an article penned by a U.S. national who appears to be a big time lefty journalist.

Conclusion - the WaPo hysteria - possibly fueled by the lefty journalist - and the article by the lefty journalist - has a barely passing resemblance to the Breitbart story. In other words, you and WaPo are fulla crap again Finn.
So, anyone criticizing fake news at Breitbart, including the Dortmund Police and the Ruhr Nachrichten, are lefty journalists? Leave it to you to characterize real news in the Times or Post as fake news while characterizing fake news on Breitbart as real news. You sound more like Kellyanne Conway every day.

Here's an article exposing the right (the primary disseminators and beneficiaries of fake news) for co-opting the term after the criticism they received in the wake of Pizzagate.

Fake news has a real meaning — deliberately constructed lies, in the form of news articles, meant to mislead the public. For example: The one falsely claiming that Pope Francis had endorsed Donald Trump, or the one alleging without basis that Hillary Clinton would be indicted just before the election...

“The speed with which the term became polarized and in fact a rhetorical weapon illustrates how efficient the conservative media machine has become,” said George Washington University professor Nikki Usher.

As Jeremy Peters wrote in the New York Times: “Conservative cable and radio personalities, top Republicans and even Mr. Trump himself . . . have appropriated the term and turned it against any news they see as hostile to their agenda.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...dd5_story.html

This article describes perfectly the purpose of this silly thread of yours.
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Old 01-09-2017, 01:45 PM
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Trump hysteria.
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:10 PM
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So, anyone criticizing fake news at Breitbart, including the Dortmund Police and the Ruhr Nachrichten, are lefty journalists? Leave it to you to characterize real news in the Times or Post as fake news while characterizing fake news on Breitbart as real news. You sound more like Kellyanne Conway every day.
Because it often is, and you fall for it every time. Or, as in this case, you amplify it and embellish it. Just like the story that WaPo and NY Times ran quoting un-named sourced the "Putin intended to tip the election for Trump" has now been clearly shown to have been fake news.

In the meantime, Brietbart has doubled down on its reporting of events in Germany on New Year's Eve:

The headlines — which lean on the establishment media’s new “fake news” trope — fail to reflect that reporting from some of the very same outlets now blasting Breitbart News confirmed almost every substantive fact about the Breitbart London report on the issue: there were 1,000, mostly male, mostly non-native German people gathered in the Leeds Square; there were repeated chants of “Allahu Akbar”; the ‘Free Syrian Army’ flag was flown; and there was a fire at the St. Reinold’s Church caused by the fireworks. The only correction Breitbart London is happy to make is the age of the church, which does not constitute a substantive error in our reporting.

After actually reading the stories that the original Brietbart story was sourced from, the above statement is generally factual.

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Here's an article exposing the right (the primary disseminators and beneficiaries of fake news) for co-opting the term after the criticism they received in the wake of Pizzagate.

Fake news has a real meaning — deliberately constructed lies, in the form of news articles, meant to mislead the public. For example: The one falsely claiming that Pope Francis had endorsed Donald Trump, or the one alleging without basis that Hillary Clinton would be indicted just before the election...

“The speed with which the term became polarized and in fact a rhetorical weapon illustrates how efficient the conservative media machine has become,” said George Washington University professor Nikki Usher.

As Jeremy Peters wrote in the New York Times: “Conservative cable and radio personalities, top Republicans and even Mr. Trump himself . . . have appropriated the term and turned it against any news they see as hostile to their agenda.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...dd5_story.html

This article describes perfectly the purpose of this silly thread of yours.
You're accusing the right of doing what the left is actually doing. The concept of "fake news" and "alt-right" wasn't invented by the right. It was invented by the left. Using the "fake news" label is nothing more than an effort to curb freedom of speech and/or freedom of the press. Period.

It has the same DNA, for example, as the crazy left wing effort to link Sarah Palin to Jared Loughner. Or, the weeks long faux controversy over whether or not Anne Romney said "you people". Its an effort by the left to gin up a reason why Hillary lost the election. Its an effort by the left to blame some idiot going into a pizza joint and shoot off a gun on the right. It also comes from the same DNA as the media's effort to de-emphasize a story out of Chicago where some...um....people kidnapped a disabled kid, restrained him, made him drink toilet water and make him say "F trump" and "F the police".

The left can't suppress the news out right...there's that darned 1st amendment in the way. So, as an alternative, they find a way to discredit news and news sources that oppose their point of view. The last thing that the left wants is an open debate.
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Old 01-09-2017, 07:13 PM
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January 9, 2017 —In May 2015, hackers infected some 20,000 computers in Germany’s parliament with malicious software designed to steal sensitive data. The vast and damaging cyberattack was the most expansive in the government’s history.

The culprits? Experts and officials blamed the hacking group "APT 28," the same outfit that the US government says hacked the Democratic National Convention in July 2015 and helped Russia execute an extensive influence operation to discredit Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

Now, a growing number of German politicians are deeply concerned that Russia will interfere in their own elections this coming fall, seeking to discredit pro-European Chancellor Angela Merkel as she runs for a fourth term, and strengthen support for the burgeoning populist party Alternative for Germany (AFD). In response, Berlin is considering new ways of blunting any attempt from Moscow to influence its political process through cyberattacks and misinformation.

In December, the German Interior Ministry proposed creating a Center of Defense Against Misinformation, to help hunt down and eradicate fake news or other false information from the internet. The ministry has already told political parties to disable bots, technology that automatically shares news, tweets, and Facebook posts, saying those can be easily tricked into distributing propaganda.


http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Passc...ight-fake-news
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