How wealth relates.....

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by Kamakiri

Totally see your point. In fact, it's only because the Church that I go to, wanted to pick me up at the lowest point in my life and has never asked for once cent in return that led me to be an active member there. Other denominations could learn a lot from them.

You are a very lucky person to find a house of worship like that.

My experience with the catholic church does not even come close to that. They not only wanted 25% of my ex wife and I income, they also wanted our children's souls, so badly in fact that they made me sign papers that my children would not be raised in my own faith.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

You are a very lucky person to find a house of worship like that.

My experience with the catholic church does not even come close to that. They not only wanted 25% of my ex wife and I income, they also wanted our children's souls, so badly in fact that they made me sign papers that my children would not be raised in my own faith.

Now that is truly sickening. I would have told them where to shove those papers. But, then, I'm not known for my restraint and subtlety.

Bill Maher had a similar story. His mother was Jewish and his father Catholic.
He said he grew up horrified by the way the church and other Catholics treated his father, who remained a devoted Catholic despite the abuse, and literally demanded his mother renounce her faith. He said he would never forgive them for that.

Dave

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

You are a very lucky person to find a house of worship like that.

My experience with the catholic church does not even come close to that. They not only wanted 25% of my ex wife and I income, they also wanted our children's souls, so badly in fact that they made me sign papers that my children would not be raised in my own faith.

That was the case with my brother as well, but Quebec had always been priest ridden.

[Kamakiri]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

You are a very lucky person to find a house of worship like that.

I do feel very fortunate. In fact, my official water baptism is this Sunday.

I sat down with one of the pastors about a year ago, who took me out to dinner. He said that churches make the mistake of subscribing to the theory of "more noses more nickels", which has never been the calling of my Church. The mission statement of my Church is "One people one call.....to heal the broken". I am happy to count myself among them.

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by Kamakiri

I do feel very fortunate. In fact, my official water baptism is this Sunday.

I sat down with one of the pastors about a year ago, who took me out to dinner. He said that churches make the mistake of subscribing to the theory of "more noses more nickels", which has never been the calling of my Church. The mission statement of my Church is "One people one call.....to heal the broken". I am happy to count myself among them.

If there were more houses like this, the world would be a much better place !

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

If there were more houses like this, the world would be a much better place !

Indeed, sadly there is too much at stake in the business of religion and too many layabouts with their sinecure at stake.