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Old 07-10-2014, 11:31 AM
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We need a jackbooted Fed government to tell us what to do.

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The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:00 PM
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We need a jackbooted Fed government to tell us what to do.



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Apparently sometimes yes, to enforce Federal law and maintain the peace when local officials are unwilling, incompetent, and/or overwhelmed. Or would you prefer anarchy, chaos, and/ or localized tyranny?

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Old 07-10-2014, 01:53 PM
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in general the Federal government expands freedoms to minorities who are usually victimized by state laws
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:56 PM
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Apparently sometimes yes, to enforce Federal law and maintain the peace when local officials are unwilling, incompetent, and/or overwhelmed. Or would you prefer anarchy, chaos, and/ or localized tyranny?

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Old 07-10-2014, 02:25 PM
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We need them to tell us what porn is.

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Old 07-11-2014, 12:45 PM
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Ah, article 4.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiv

"Section 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence."

There it is.

The United States can intervene to act against domestic violence. I take that to mean that in the event of violence perpetrated, allowed or deliberately overlooked by a corrupt state government, as in the case in 1961 Alabama, the Feds can intervene.

JFK was in the right and all of these asshats who have been crying about it ever since don't know what they are talking about, as usual.

Excellent.

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I didn't mention this one, because we were positing a corrupt or rebelling state government. This clause requires a request from the state (that's the application from the legislature or the executive part), and such a government wouldn't give you one.

But the guarantee at the beginning of that section is not so qualified. If state government is not up to snuff, the Feds can come in and fix.

(Don't know why I mentioned Article 7 before, my bad.)

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We need a jackbooted Fed government to tell us what to do.
Sometimes maybe. You saying it could never happen?

What if the Goodfellas finally take over New Jersey?
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Old 07-11-2014, 12:58 PM
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The Feds can be good for something. If the bad guys get a judge (here they got 2) there's really nothing the locals can do, you need the FBI.

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The Feds can be good for something. If the bad guys get a judge (here they got 2) there's really nothing the locals can do, you need the FBI.

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Thank-you sir.

Fortunately the FBI mostly shows up in black oxfords.
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:34 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...tml?1406830409


I like the part about the executive branch needing to do something about the immigration process. Isn't that why Boehner is suing in the first place?
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