Healthcare and Insurance - It's Not a Free Ride

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by painter

You are right...thanks for setting the record straight. This is the latest from New York State...

Extended Benefits
Since the average unemployment rate in New York State is now above 8%, an additional 7 weeks of Extended Benefits have been added, for a total of 20 weeks. This is in addition to the 26 weeks of regular benefits and the 33 weeks of Emergency Benefits. Extended Benefits may be claimed on this website in the usual manner.
For information about Unemployment Benefit Extensions, click here.

How much is the benefit?
What is the cost of living?
What did you have to earn to get what benefit?
Without this info how can one say that it is better to collect than work?

The debate about weather it is better to put a family on the street rather than pay a benifit is another issue.

[painter]

Originally Posted by noonereal

How much is the benefit?
What is the cost of living?
What did you have to earn to get what benefit?
Without this info how can one say that it is better to collect than work?

The debate about weather it is better to put a family on the street rather than pay a benifit is another issue.

err...when did I say that? Here let me give you what you evidentally want...http://www.labor.state.ny.us/pressre...uly16_2009.htm

Why do I feel like I'm in a classroom? Oh your misspelled word...weather...is whether...don't fret...we all make mistakes. Right? That's why they put erasers on pencils.

Please don't even think about moving here. At the rate we're going...we'll soon turn out the lights.

[noonereal]

Sorry if I misunderstood your position on unemployment benefits.
What is your position?

I don't mean to ask so many questions but that is how I learn.
I find that in religion and politics most people do not have answers and if they did maybe they would change their mind on some issues. I am sure I would.

Don't think about moving here??? Where is here?

[merrylander]

Healthcare was not free in Canada either but even with the payroll tax - 0.8% of taxable income and the Provincial fee $54/month for the family plan, they still spend much less as a percent of GDP.

For every "horror" story you can come up with about their Single Payer plan I can find two "horror" stories about the big health insurance companies.

I get sob stories about outrageous drug prices where people claim self-righteously that we are paying for all the research and the rest of the world is getting a free ride. I can dig up exact numbers but the pharma spending on advertising runs in the billions every year and is rising - that is what we are paying for, not research, just advertising and golden parachutes. Not to mention the $300 million they recently spread around Congress.

Will we get healthcare reform? If you don't want it I would not lose any sleep over it because it ain't gonna happen. Dr. No and Senator Demented will see to that.

I enjoy the good health that I do partly because of genes and partly because of preventative medicine. When my opthalmologist back in Ottawa saw something in my right eye he sent me to a retinal specialist. We did not have to ask the government and the fee was $0.00. My sister-in-law complained of chest pains, her children drove her to the hospital, she was examined and the next day they installed a pacemaker.

A dear friend living in Memphis died before 60 because her insurance company figured she was too old to spend the money to treat the cancer. By the time she did get treatment it was too late.

No, dinna worry about change 'cause it won't happen, folks here would rather go to hell in a handcart than change a damn thing because we are always right.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by merrylander

For every "horror" story you can come up with about their Single Payer plan I can find two "horror" stories about the big health insurance companies.

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Single Payer was never on the table which kind of makes this entire plan a sham.

[cabinover]

If the plan is so great why aren't all the Senators willing to sign onto it?

As for Canada having the greatest health plan since sliced bread I have a friend who's mother just died in Toronto two months ago. She went in with an obstructed bowel. By the time they got around to her 3 days later she'd died. They did give her a bed right away though. The doctors wouldn't even call my friend in NY to tell her anything about what was going on. An intern called to report the death to her, not even her own doctor.

Just what I know from being told.

As for this health care plan, I for one am very glad it may not see the light of day. It's oversight boards will be appointed by the President. Hmmm....Al Sharpton am gonna look into your needs? Jesse Jackson perhaps? Please.

[Sandy G]

Al Sharpton oughta have the same Bariatric Surgery done to him that I had...As Richard Pryor would have said-"Big fried chicken eatin' motherf"-Well, you get the picture... (grin)

[Twodogs]

Obama care is dead as far as I can tell (from FOX News).

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by cabinover

If the plan is so great why aren't all the Senators willing to sign onto it?

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Not to be a cynic but in large part I thin the answer is that it is not in their own best interest as health care companies contribute mightily to them and they are the real reason we still have no national health care plan in place.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Twodogs

Obama care is dead as far as I can tell (from FOX News).

I think you are "right."