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Old 01-04-2021, 11:28 AM
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All this whining about getting Trump for what he's done needs to stop!

On his last day in office, I see Trump signing his very own all encompassing presidential pardon in front of rolling cameras. In effect he will be trumping Biden's inauguration.
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Old 01-04-2021, 12:57 PM
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So you think the Constitution intended for a president to be able to violate all federal law with impunity?
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Old 01-04-2021, 02:20 PM
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All this whining about getting Trump for what he's done needs to stop!

On his last day in office, I see Trump signing his very own all encompassing presidential pardon in front of rolling cameras. In effect he will be trumping Biden's inauguration.
That "all encompassing presidential pardon" wouldn't shield him from states prosecutions would it? Far from being a barking dog the SDNY and others are waiting to bite.
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Old 01-04-2021, 04:43 PM
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All this whining about getting Trump for what he's done needs to stop!

On his last day in office, I see Trump signing his very own all encompassing presidential pardon in front of rolling cameras. In effect he will be trumping Biden's inauguration.
Do I hear the stamping of tiny feet? Will you hold your breath too?
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Old 01-04-2021, 05:25 PM
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You think he's not going to pardon himself? No stomping of feet here, little dude. Just pointing out Trump's first term end game.
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Old 01-04-2021, 09:31 PM
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He may try a self-pardon but it won't shield him from states charges although he will claim it does. Then he will refuse to return stateside to face prosecution on that basis. Down the road it will be up to the courts to decide if a self-pardon is even possible.
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Old 01-05-2021, 07:03 AM
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Need to get him out of the office first!!


Trump and all of his willing co-conspirators should be doing life without parole in solitary confinement in Guantánamo then!
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Old 01-05-2021, 10:35 AM
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So you think the Constitution intended for a president to be able to violate all federal law with impunity?
Don't know and neither do you.

When Trump self pardons it will be the federal court system that determines intent, with SCOTUS having the final say.
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Old 01-05-2021, 01:45 PM
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Don't know and neither do you.

When Trump self pardons it will be the federal court system that determines intent, with SCOTUS having the final say.
You find it rhetorically convenient to cavil about hard knowledge, to get out of a little dilemma. Just answering my question would involve either venturing an opinion that you'd dislike having to defend, or else agreeing with me, which you'd also dislike.
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Old 01-05-2021, 05:42 PM
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Trump administration officially says huge hack was likely a Russian espionage operation
The statement from the CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS and ODNI comes after DiaperDon cast doubt on a Russian origin for the hack, saying it might be China.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...onage-n1252882

But... but... Donny assured us it was CHYYYYNA!
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