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12-09-2016, 11:59 AM
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Here's a fake news alert: MSNBC Host Stephanie Ruhle states "Fox News had their Christmas party at a Trump Hotel". Problem is, Fox News hasn't had their Christmas party yet. Nor will it be held at any Trump property.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-hos...hington-hotel/
We reached out to Fox News to clarify this statement and were informed that Fox hasn’t had its party yet. That party is not scheduled to be held at Trump’s Washington hotel, or any other Trump property. Instead, it will be held at the Liaison Capitol Hill in D.C.
This was a "news segment" about how a Trump presidency was rife with potential conflicts of interest, as exemplified by charging campaign expenses incurred at Trump properties to his campaign.
Ms Ruhle, idiot that she likely is, would not recognize that this is actually a pretty smart move that used existing rules to lower campaign expenses. This is consistent with previous "news reports" in the media that accused Trump of using existing laws to reduce business expenses. Then Ms Ruhle, to be kind, decides to play fast and loose by suggesting that news competitor has a conflict of interest with the President - elect.
Fake news on display, and corrected here as a service to readers on this site.
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12-09-2016, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Here's a fake news alert: MSNBC Host Stephanie Ruhle states "Fox News had their Christmas party at a Trump Hotel". Problem is, Fox News hasn't had their Christmas party yet. Nor will it be held at any Trump property.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-hos...hington-hotel/
We reached out to Fox News to clarify this statement and were informed that Fox hasn’t had its party yet. That party is not scheduled to be held at Trump’s Washington hotel, or any other Trump property. Instead, it will be held at the Liaison Capitol Hill in D.C.
This was a "news segment" about how a Trump presidency was rife with potential conflicts of interest, as exemplified by charging campaign expenses incurred at Trump properties to his campaign.
Ms Ruhle, idiot that she likely is, would not recognize that this is actually a pretty smart move that used existing rules to lower campaign expenses. This is consistent with previous "news reports" in the media that accused Trump of using existing laws to reduce business expenses. Then Ms Ruhle, to be kind, decides to play fast and loose by suggesting that news competitor has a conflict of interest with the President - elect.
Fake news on display, and corrected here as a service to readers on this site.
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Unlike fake news, mainstream media corrects the record when they say something demonstrably false or they punish the person responsible (e.g., Dan Rather, Brian Williams). For example, the inside page of the WashPost has a "corrections" list on page A2 every time something factually incorrect is pointed out to them. Similarly, their website lists ongoing corrections on the bottom each article. Trump and Flynn, OTOH, simply double-down on demonstrably false news articles that they glean from InfoWars, NewsMax or WorldNetDaily.
Your argument (the same one that Limbaugh made again today) is that the only "fake news" is the stuff that appears daily in the WashPost, NYTimes, NPR or PBS. Both he and you conflate opinion, reporting on a counterfactual statement of a (liberal) politician, or poll results or predictions that end up being incorrect as fake news. Your (and his) argument is that if a talking head incorrectly predicts a Lions victory over the Packers, it is fake news or if sports metrics point to a the likelihood a Lions victory that doesn't happen, it's fake news.
Anyway, it's pointless talking to you further on this issue. If you choose to believe that Hillary ran a child sex ring out of a pizza joint, knock yourself out. Just leave your AR-15 at home.
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12-09-2016, 01:37 PM
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Fake news on display, and corrected here as a service to readers on this site.
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You intend no service to anyone here. Your posts serve only your ego and, as a byproduct, your party's talking points. Speaking of byproducts, this thread reminds me of grass after it has been processed by a bull.
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12-09-2016, 02:38 PM
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Speaking of byproducts, this thread reminds me of grass after it has been processed by a bull.
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Can't think of anyone better qualified to make an informed judgement about bull byproducts than you.
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12-09-2016, 03:00 PM
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Unlike fake news, mainstream media corrects the record when they say something demonstrably false or they punish the person responsible (e.g., Dan Rather, Brian Williams).
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Really? Still waiting for the "corrections" on Hillary's way over-inflated polling numbers.
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Your argument (the same one that Limbaugh made again today) is that the only "fake news" is the stuff that appears daily in the WashPost, NYTimes, NPR or PBS. Both he and you conflate opinion, reporting on a counterfactual statement of a (liberal) politician, or poll results or predictions that end up being incorrect as fake news. Your (and his) argument is that if a talking head incorrectly predicts a Lions victory over the Packers, it is fake news or if sports metrics point to a the likelihood a Lions victory that doesn't happen, it's fake news.
Anyway, it's pointless talking to you further on this issue. If you choose to believe that Hillary ran a child sex ring out of a pizza joint, knock yourself out. Just leave your AR-15 at home.
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No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I've explained it twice in this thread, and provided examples. If you simply want to look at the facts presented and deny them, that's your call.
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12-09-2016, 03:09 PM
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Really? Still waiting for the "corrections" on Hillary's way over-inflated polling numbers.
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Just as I said. You conflate the reporting of poll results with fake news.
I'm done with this thread. You're incorrigibly obtuse.
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12-09-2016, 03:22 PM
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Very successful whell thread! Trolled along for 7 pages!
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12-12-2016, 11:48 AM
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Very successful whell thread! Trolled along for 7 pages!
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Thank you for your hapless contributions.
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12-12-2016, 11:56 AM
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Fake News Alert: Russia Hacked the RNC Too - NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us...hack.html?_r=0
WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances and promote Donald J. Trump, according to senior administration officials.
They based that conclusion, in part, on another finding — which they say was also reached with high confidence — that the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks.
Never happened. The RNC's computers were not hacked.
"We contacted the FBI months ago when the [alleged hacking of the Democratic National Committee] issue came about. They reviewed all of our systems. We have hacking-detection systems in place, and the conclusion was then, as it was again two days ago when we went back to the FBI to ask them about this, that the RNC was not hacked," Priebus said today on ABC News' "This Week."
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12-12-2016, 11:59 AM
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So, who do we believe, NY Times or Priebus. NY Times or Preibus....
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