Thirty Years On, How Well Do Global Warming Predictions Stand Up?

[Mark B]

Originally Posted by whell

I should feel dumb?**** It's you that apparently thinks Desantis is some sort of climate scientist, bonehead.

The data just doesn't support the premise that "climate change is causing more frequent and severe named storms.**** Sorry, but it doesn't.**** Check out the data here: https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml **** This data goes back to 1851.**** Page 15 here updates the data for through 2010. ****https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/nws-nhc-6.pdf.

Even this data is problematic in a couple ways:
1) the hurricane ranking scale we use today (Cat 1 - Cat 5) has been around only since 1971.**** The create the table on page 15, NOAA had to go back and extrapolate rankings from available data. ****
2) Of course, the further back in time you go, the less reliable and consistent that data will be. ****

Be that as it may, it appears that the frequency and severity of named storms has actually been DECREASING slightly.**** That's true if you look back to 1851, but it's also true if you look at just the last 50 years.**** In the last 50 years, the average total named storms by decade is 14.29 versus the historical average of 17.7.**** Also, in the last 50 years, the average of named storms Cat 3 or greater is 5.43 versus the historical average of 6. ****

Those historical averages include Katrina in 2005, which was one of the worst storms of the last 150 years in terms of financial impact and severity.

More data is always good when it comes to understanding climate change.

The Wikipedia article linked to below has a number of charts on Atlantic hurricanes and tropical storms, including hurricane Emily (2005) and later hurricanes not listed on any of the numerous charts in the articles linked to in Whell's post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ricane_records

[Chicks]

Climate protesters throw soup on Van Gogh's 'Sunflowers' painting in London
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/14/11290...london-gallery

Yes, Whell, there are a few "lefty" loons out there too, lol. We sensible centrists certainly don't support their absurdities, either.

[donquixote99]

1. They didn't damage the painting.
2. If we lose the planet, we lose the painting.
3. We need an Endangered Planet Act.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

1. They didn't damage the painting.
2. If we lose the planet, we lose the painting.
3. We need an Endangered Planet Act.

Yet, their antics run counter to their objective. Dumb shits.

[Chicks]

How Koch Industries, Fake Scientists, and Rush Limbaugh Invented Climate Denial
A new book, "The Petroleum Papers", goes inside a 1991 conference whose goal was to make people doubt climate change is real.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zq...climate-denial

Well, looky here - we circle back to the original post by the village idiot; a pure BS "report" from the Cato Institute, funded by big oil tycoons, Koch industries, pure propaganda.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Chicks

How Koch Industries, Fake Scientists, and Rush Limbaugh Invented Climate Denial
A new book, "The Petroleum Papers", goes inside a 1991 conference whose goal was to make people doubt climate change is real.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zq...climate-denial

Well, looky here - we circle back to the original post by the village idiot; a pure BS "report" from the Cato Institute, funded by big oil tycoons, Koch industries, pure propaganda.

The recent posts on this thread touching on art and Rush Limbaugh provide a segue to something I saw online recently:

Thinking about Rush Limbaugh and how, now that he’s dead, you never, ever hear about him. No one mentions anything he did. Because what he did had no value. It contributed nothing worthwhile to the culture. Nothing of lasting value.

He just made anger. Every day. Rising, blooming & fading like a fart. Then he died & was instantly replaced by a fleet of little replicas, farting fake fury five days a week. Creating nothing of interest or artistic value to anyone.

[Rajoo]

Lock them up, throw away the key till they grow up. No one has the right to occupy nor destroy another's property.

If someone wants to protest oil exploration, reducing energy usage is the only long term solution.

[Rajoo]

Alaska cancels snow crab season for first time after population collapses

Scientists have expressed suspicion that warmer temperatures in recent years have been responsible. Alaska’s summers and oceans have become warmer, scientists say, resulting in a significantly higher seasonal loss of sea ice. The U.S. Environment Protection Agency said in a recent report that rising temperatures may have forced species such as snow crabs further north or into deeper seas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/clima...limate-change/

[Chicks]

Before and after: See how the Mississippi River and its tributaries have dropped to record lows
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/22/weath...ate/index.html

...and the Midwest idiot MAGAMorons will blame this on... Climate change? Nope. Biden.

[Oerets]

I live in the Ohio River Valley and we have had at least three Red Flag Days in the last two weeks. Extreme fire danger alerts.

Somewhat uncommon to have them this often. Seem to be happening more often every year. No rain of any consequence in a month or more. Farmers love being able to harvest. About the only ones.