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Old 06-28-2015, 01:26 PM
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Individual vice trumps communal virtue.
Every time - when I was studying that period I was always struck by the naivete and lack of common sense exhibited by some otherwise very learned individuals in believing (or hoping) that a stated sense of purpose for a community would magically engender all parties involved with self discipline and good will.

Nathaniel Hawthorne and Herman Melville, to name a couple - and Melville one of my favorites.
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Old 06-28-2015, 01:34 PM
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Nathaniel Hawthorne and Herman Melville, to name a couple - and Melville one of my favorites.
Although, to their credit, they soon saw the folly and degradation in the Brook Farm, Oneida, and other experiments and washed their hands of them.
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:08 AM
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The reasons humans originally formed societies were protection, food, and sex.

I make it a point not to infringe on the rights of other humans, steal their food, or abduct their sexual partner.

As I have a problem with authority and those busybodies who feel the need to impose their flavor of the day/year/century system of betterment, I will be happy when I can grow most of my own food and utilize technology for protection.

I will pay my taxes, as they are necessary for the infrastructure that will allow me to be as self sufficient as is feasible, but I will limit my interaction with other humans to those I know are reasonable and not likely to pose a threat or be an aggravation.

The right to be left alone is precious.
Hell is other people?

I always like to point out that heaven is other people, too.
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:48 AM
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Every time - when I was studying that period I was always struck by the naivete and lack of common sense exhibited by some otherwise very learned individuals in believing (or hoping) that a stated sense of purpose for a community would magically engender all parties involved with self discipline and good will.

Nathaniel Hawthorne and Herman Melville, to name a couple - and Melville one of my favorites.
What should I read after Moby Dick? I am looking for Redbeard.
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What should I read after Moby Dick? I am looking for Redbeard.
"Omoo"?
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