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02-22-2014, 04:13 PM
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George Santayana was right.
Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.
When I look about today I am convinced that we must have stopped teaching history in our schools;
The 1%ers want to take us back to the 1920s - didn't work then won't work now,
Who else wants to add a lesson?
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02-22-2014, 04:33 PM
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One post today caught my eye for it's breathtaking ignorance of American history.
"Separation of church and state is to keep government out of the churches. Not for churches to stay out of government." 427
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02-22-2014, 04:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobabode
One post today caught my eye for it's breathtaking ignorance of American history.
"Separation of church and state is to keep government out of the churches. Not for churches to stay out of government." 427
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The opinion of a Faux News viewer, a proud consumer of half-truths.
For the benefit of -5, I offer the following text:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
The bolded clause keeps the church out of government and the following keeps the government out of church. -5 is half right and half wrong. That's actually pretty good for him.
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02-22-2014, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
The opinion of a Faux News viewer, a proud consumer of half-truths.
For the benefit of -5, I offer the following text:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
The bolded clause keeps the church out of government and the following keeps the government out of church. -5 is half right and half wrong. That's actually pretty good for him.
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Gee thanks.
But what makes up the church/religion as a whole.
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02-22-2014, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-2-7
Gee thanks.
But what makes up the church as a whole.
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Use English, please.
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02-22-2014, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-2-7
Gee thanks.
But what makes up the church/religion as a whole.
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I'll bite. Explain what you think it is.
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02-22-2014, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
I'll bite. Explain what you think it is.
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The people do.
They don't need anything to participate in a religion.
And they're entitled to vote. They can change laws with this vote that they're entitled to.
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02-22-2014, 05:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
The opinion of a Faux News viewer, a proud consumer of half-truths.
For the benefit of -5, I offer the following text:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
The bolded clause keeps the church out of government and the following keeps the government out of church. -5 is half right and half wrong. That's actually pretty good for him.
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Your highlight says Congress and nothing about religion staying out of government.
If it did we would have no one voting and no one to vote for.
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02-24-2014, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4-2-7
Your highlight says Congress and nothing about religion staying out of government.
If it did we would have no one voting and no one to vote for.
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You don't grasp that when the government in Arizona dictates that those with specific Christian views can willfully discriminate at will where otherwise it would be illegal and that the government is establishing a preferred religion and allowing it special privileges?
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02-22-2014, 06:09 PM
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Got it.
Yep I heard that and don't agree the state needed a law for that and be specific.
I know in California a business owners can refuse service to anyone. It's not a individual's right to patronize a business.
Is it the best thing for there business probably not.
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