What to do about Illegal Aliens ?

[merrylander]

I'm with JJIII and D-Ray, especially as I did it all by the book - any idea what an immigration lawyer costs? Free amnesty? Not bloody likely. Sure, Americans will not do the work that they do, Americans do not normally live three families to a single house either. You all would be surprised at just how little it would raise prices if they paid decent salaries. Did we see a drop in new home prices after all the union men were replaced with illegals? No, the builders just pocketed the extra profit.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by JJIII

Seems to me that if we punish the people that hire the illegals the illegals will begin to deport themselves.

Why are you so anti-business? Why do you want to punish the "engine of our economy"?

Dave

[CarlV]

We cannot afford to do anything about the situation as it is, and the rate of this illegal immigration is non sustainable like so many things seem to be these days. Hard to say if they will budget anything. Maybe if there were military contracts involved...
This is a real head shaker IMO. Especially since they just raised tuitions 15%.

California's Supreme Court became the first in the country Monday to affirm the right of illegal immigrants to pay the same college tuition as state residents, rather than the higher out-of-state rate.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz15Sw4tRGF

[Charles]

No one thing is going to solve the problem. I would start by:

1. Securing the border, as much as humanly possible.

2. Fine/arrest any employer who knowingly hires illegals...don't tell me that we can't create a database that's not effective.

3. Deport any illegal found here.

4. Revise the laws as necessary to reflect the current situation.

Amnesty will only encourage more illegal behavior.

I will also admit, I had a severe case of the ass whenever I RENEWED my driver's license, here in Bugtussell of all places, and was required to furnish a SSN & a birth certificate, while the State was allowing foreign nationals to APPLY for one with a payroll check stub or a utility bill.

They may have been required to furnish a Green Card as well, but it's plenty easy to buy fakes.

No doubt, Cargill carries more weight at the State Capitol than I do.

Chas

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Charles

No one thing is going to solve the problem. I would start by:

1. Securing the border, as much as humanly possible.

2. Fine/arrest any employer who knowingly hires illegals...don't tell me that we can't create a database that's not effective.

3. Deport any illegal found here.

4. Revise the laws as necessary to reflect the current situation.

Amnesty will only encourage more illegal behavior.

I will also admit, I had a severe case of the ass whenever I RENEWED my driver's license, here in Bugtussell of all places, and was required to furnish a SSN & a birth certificate, while the State was allowing foreign nationals to APPLY for one with a payroll check stub or a utility bill.

They may have been required to furnish a Green Card as well, but it's plenty easy to buy fakes.

No doubt, Cargill carries more weight at the State Capitol than I do.

Chas

An important question about deporting imported workers - Are the U.S. Citizens willing to pay the freight on increasing the capacity of the INS and the courts to process and deport all such workers. Are we willing to pay the additional cost to add to the border patrol. The system for processing deportations is running at max capacity now. In this era of austerity, will the powers that be double or triple the budget for the immigration enforcement machinery?

Regards,

D-Ray

[Charles]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

An important question about deporting imported workers - Are the U.S. Citizens willing to pay the freight on increasing the capacity of the INS and the courts to process and deport all such workers. Are we willing to pay the additional cost to add to the border patrol. The system for processing deportations is running at max capacity now. In this era of austerity, will the powers that be double or triple the budget for the immigration enforcement machinery?

Regards,

D-Ray

Might be cheaper in the long run.

Chas

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Charles

Might be cheaper in the long run.

Chas

And what politicians are willing to count on something happening "in the long run"? Several will talk a good game, but I don't think many of them are willing to roll the dice on something that will not somehow pay off during their term. See Chas, I'm getting more cynical about Washington than you are.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Charles]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

And what politicians are willing to count on something happening "in the long run"? Several will talk a good game, but I don't think many of them are willing to roll the dice on something that will not somehow pay off during their term. See Chas, I'm getting more cynical about Washington than you are.

Regards,

D-Ray

Perhaps we should join forces and start a pessimist club.

Chas

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by Charles

Might be cheaper in the long run.

Chas

Try this on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal..._United_States

There seems to be a lot of info that says yes and a lot of info that says no. Where does one go to find the real true story?

[Devil's+voc8]

We already have laws in place on this subject, seasonal workers: these laws are contrary to the apparent public policy. It's kind of having the cake and eating it too scenario.