Is Today's Trumpist GOP Fascist?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Mark B

Not a pot shot Rajoo, calling out your statement "As for Hamas militants using human shields, this is propaganda".

What Hamas is doing in Gaza is a textbook example of using the civilian Palestinian population as human shields in violation of humanitarian law as defined in the Geneva Convention.

https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/c...human-shields/

Here is an excerpt from NYT (dated 12/8) which leads me to believe this to be inconclusive.

For the record, I am not a supporter of Hamas, the PLO or any Islam aligned groups or countries. Are they terrorists or freedom fighters? Depends whom you are talking to. Its just that I like Israel a lot less, especially when headed by Netanyahu. Even more importantly, do not want our taxes supporting the annihilation of Gazans which is what is happening now. Money for war, not much for Gaza relief.

Here is what we know about Israel’s evidence that Hamas fired rockets from safe zones.

Israel released maps, satellite photos and a video on Thursday that it said showed militants operating in humanitarian zones, and near a camp for the displaced and a U.N. logistics base in the Gaza Strip, bolstering its claims that Hamas uses civilians as cover for attacks on Israel.

Israel has long accused Hamas of operating under hospitals and in crowded neighborhoods to make it hard for Israeli forces to attack them without causing massive civilian casualties. Hamas has denied those claims.

On Thursday, the Israeli military posted online maps and a video showing where it said rockets had been fired toward Israel. The New York Times could not verify that rockets had been fired from either site.

Hamas did not immediately respond to Israel’s claims.

One map indicated a site where the Israeli military said rockets were fired from within what it said was the Al-Mawasi humanitarian zone, a barren area in Gaza’s Rafah province that has become crowded in recent days as Israeli forces have directed people fleeing fighting to go there.

But Israel’s maps on Thursday appeared to show different boundaries for the humanitarian zone than one the Israeli military had distributed before. A map that Israel released on Nov. 23 showed a much smaller humanitarian zone, which did not include the spot where Israel said on Thursday that rockets were launched.

When asked about the discrepancy, the Israeli military did not respond directly, saying only that the rockets were being fired from “humanitarian zones.”

A video released by Israel shows what appears to be a rocket launch position just 100 meters from the edge of a tent city where thousands of civilians are sheltering on the outskirts of the city of Rafah. It is also 250 meters from the largest logistics base in Gaza for UNRWA, the U.N. agency responsible for Palestinian refugee affairs.

The video does not show rockets being launched, but shows the position before and after the alleged launches. The New York Times could not verify Israel’s claim that rockets were fired from the site.

This same area has long been used by Hamas as a training base, and it was used to practice paragliding in the lead-up to the Oct. 7 attacks, according to Hamas video that was geolocated by The Times using satellite imagery. A mock Israeli village used in Hamas training exercises lies about 1,000 meters from the rocket launch position, along with firing ranges and other Hamas training infrastructure.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/12...rom-safe-zones

[Mark B]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Israel's plan all along seems to be total destruction of Gaza and they get to make the rules by controlling the relief efforts. Where does Israel expect the Gazan's to go since Egypt does not want them and have their border locked up except for letting UN relief trucks go into Gaza?

U.S. officials push for increased aid in Gaza as Israeli offensive continues

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...anitarian-aid/

What Netanyahu & his supporters in Israel are doing to the civilian population in Gaza is intended to be barbaric and punitive. It's inexcusable.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Mark B

What Netanyahu & his supporters in Israel are doing to the civilian population in Gaza is intended to be barbaric and punitive. It's inexcusable.

Thank you for agreeing with me on this major point.

Why did Hamas conduct a brutal terrorist attack on Israel killing around 1,200 civilians and knowing fully well that retaliation will be swift and brutal? My take is desperate people conduct desperate acts and Hamas enjoys full support of the Gazans despite their terrorist actions.

[Chicks]

GOP billionaires using dark money groups to 'distance themselves from their own extremism'
https://www.alternet.org/amp/gop-bil...ism-2666475875

Never buy anything from ULINE - you’ll be supporting this nutjob.

[donquixote99]

^^^ Great. These entrepreneurs are a heck of a class, eh? Enough to give you the bourgeois blues! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irkNlMC6p40

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Chicks

GOP billionaires using dark money groups to 'distance themselves from their own extremism'
https://www.alternet.org/amp/gop-bil...ism-2666475875

Never buy anything from ULINE - you’ll be supporting this nutjob.

Thanks Chicks, we buy quite a bit of supplies from Uline, just put a stop to it.

[finnbow]

Mike Godwin, the guy who coined "Godwin's Law (the notion that if any online discussion continues long enough, someone will almost certainly compare someone else to Hitler) says that, unlike so many references and criticism invoking Hitler, it is fully appropriate when applied to Trump.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...itler-00132427

[Chicks]

'Kill yourself now so we can save ammo!' How Trump's violent movement could conquer America
https://www.alternet.org/amp/trump-v...990-2666829990

Mitt Romney, speaking with writer McKay Coppins for his book “Romney: A Reckoning,” told him the story of multiple Republican senators who were so terrified of violence at the hands of Trump’s fascist followers that they set aside their consciences and voted against convicting him of trying to blackmail Zelenskyy and, later, trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

Yet our village idiot continues to deny that Donny and his MAGAMoron brownshirts are fascists. Probably because he’s one of them. Sad.

[Human]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Thank you for agreeing with me on this major point.

Why did Hamas conduct a brutal terrorist attack on Israel killing around 1,200 civilians and knowing fully well that retaliation will be swift and brutal? My take is desperate people conduct desperate acts and Hamas enjoys full support of the Gazans despite their terrorist actions.

Maybe they suspected that Israel would react as they have and cause millions of people to re-assess unconditional support for Israel.

If so, that is a truly sickening way to go about it. But then again, I’ve never lived in Gaza so I don’t know how it looks from that perspective.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Chicks

'Kill yourself now so we can save ammo!' How Trump's violent movement could conquer America
https://www.alternet.org/amp/trump-v...990-2666829990

Spurred on by Traitor Don and his enablers the cult sees this all as justified because they refuse to release from the lie.