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Old 06-08-2018, 11:49 PM
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Pre-existing Conditions Are Back

"The Trump administration’s startling decision to abandon one of the Affordable Care Act’s most popular provisions — protections for people with preexisting medical conditions — put Republicans on the defensive Friday and handed Democrats a potentially potent political message.
Democrats had already made health care a major focus in their campaigns heading into November’s midterm elections, with polls consistently showing it as a top issue among voters. Now, the Justice Department’s stance in a federal-court case in Texas will allow Democrats to argue that Republicans want to deny affordable health coverage to some of the people who need it most.
Late Thursday, the department said the health law’s requirement that most Americans carry insurance will become unconstitutional next year and so will consumer protections forbidding insurers to deny coverage to sick customers or charge them more.
The administration’s legal stance injects profound uncertainty into the political debate and the health-care landscape at a critical moment, just as insurance companies are developing rates for the coming year and as candidates head into a summer campaign season that both parties will try to use to solidify a foothold for their agendas." WP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.90c14b61af31

Cruel and heartless. Way to go Repukes.
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:06 AM
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Donny just handed the Dems a major campaign issue. Obamacare is very popular. This won't go well for Repubes. A few of their idiot voters will actually understand the issue.
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:30 PM
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Donny just handed the Dems a major campaign issue. Obamacare is very popular. This won't go well for Repubes. A few of their idiot voters will actually understand the issue.
If it does hand the Dems a major campaign issue, it will be because folks have no idea how insurance works.

However, the likelihood that insurance carriers - who have already priced plans to cover pre-ex - to cancel those plans immediately or not offer them at renewal is almost zero.
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Old 06-09-2018, 01:25 AM
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the health law’s requirement that most Americans carry insurance will become unconstitutional next year and so will consumer protections forbidding insurers to deny coverage to sick customers or charge them more.
My immediate reaction was 'WTF? The Constitution is scheduled to change next year?' The answer is no, the tax law is. The tax penalty for not carrying insurance, that went with the ACA, is scheduled to go away in January. Now the Justice Department is arguing that this somehow makes the pre-existing condition mandate unconstitutional.

The Federal Court would do the Repubs a huge favor by drop-kicking this one to oblivion. But if it's one of the new wing-nut judges.....
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:36 PM
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I agree with Chicks. This just gave the mid term elections to the dems.
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:50 PM
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I am willing to bet that 'taking away your guns' is a more powerful message than 'losing your healthcare' in red states. Sad but perhaps true and we will soon find out.
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I am willing to bet that 'taking away your guns' is a more powerful message than 'losing your healthcare' in red states. Sad but perhaps true and we will soon find out.
Probably, yes, the 2nd amendment fantasy is stronger from what I've seen. Too bad about the dead people, the armed insurrection against Federal authority nonsense Trump's common sense.
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:55 PM
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I am willing to bet that 'taking away your guns' is a more powerful message than 'losing your healthcare' in red states. Sad but perhaps true and we will soon find out.


You could be right but there are a whole lot of senior citizens, most all that have pre existing conditions, and I am guessing more of them vote than most other groups.
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Old 06-09-2018, 01:26 PM
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The GOP wingnuttery in action, and this thinking is not isolated.

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Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin talking to a high school assembly. Do you, a girl asked him, consider health care to a right or a privilege?

So he answered the young woman: “I think it’s probably more of a privilege. Do you consider food a right? Do you consider clothing a right? Do you consider shelter a right? What we have as rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We have the right to freedom. Past that point, everything else is a limited resource that we have to use our opportunities given to us so that we can afford those things.”
There is our answer. Owning guns is an unalienable right, healthcare OTOH is a privilege. I am sure the GOP will find a way to twist an turn this and figure out a way to blame Obama (and Democrats) for losing their healthcare.

Interpret health (care) as being a necessary ingredient for life.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-go...is-a-privilege
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