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01-10-2012, 06:39 PM
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So you wander about the hear after ?
The reason most all religions have such a hold on people !
At one time, if you did not tough the mark of the religion, you were excommunicated, shunned by all of that religion everywhere, Doomed to loneliness and death, as no one would have anything to do with you. No food, shelter or safety within the group. Hell, the people around you might just stone you to prove their loyalty to the church.
When the people were not to worried aboult excommunication, the church had to come up with something stronger, your immortal soul, and where it was going for eternity. Now that is something to keep your attention.
So where do you think your "soul" will go after passing ???? Reincarnation ? perhaps a bug !
Bill
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01-10-2012, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Bill
So you wander about the hear after ?
The reason most all religions have such a hold on people !
At one time, if you did not tough the mark of the religion, you were excommunicated, shunned by all of that religion everywhere, Doomed to loneliness and death, as no one would have anything to do with you. No food, shelter or safety within the group. Hell, the people around you might just stone you to prove their loyalty to the church.
When the people were not to worried aboult excommunication, the church had to come up with something stronger, your immortal soul, and where it was going for eternity. Now that is something to keep your attention.
So where do you think your "soul" will go after passing ???? Reincarnation ? perhaps a bug !
Bill
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"Threaten to beat a man, he might not submit. Wounds heal.
Threaten to jail him and he has the hope for escape or rescue.
You can even threaten to kill a man and he still might not cave, if he thinks reward awaits him in heaven. Convince him that noncompliance results in eternal damnation and you have left him no way out."
---E.A. Read Sr., My father.
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01-10-2012, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
"Threaten to beat a man, he might not submit. Wounds heal.
Threaten to jail him and he has the hope for escape or rescue.
You can even threaten to kill a man and he still might not cave, if he thinks reward awaits him in heaven. Convince him that noncompliance results in eternal damnation and you have left him no way out."
---E.A. Read Sr., My father.
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Your father had great insight to the male psyche.
Everybody wants to go to heaven...but nobody wants to die to get there.
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01-10-2012, 09:09 PM
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Your father had great insight to the male psyche.
Everybody wants to go to heaven...but nobody wants to die to get there.
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You can ask anyone who knew him. He was way smarter than you might expect for a guy who made his living turning a wrench. And you'd never hear anyone utter a disparaging word either. The man worked his entire life, from age 14 until he turned 68 supporting other people. When he died all he had of his own personal belongings was $2,600 in a savings account, an old car and closet full of clothes. The rest went to taking care of us and Mom.
Dave
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01-10-2012, 09:16 PM
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Do you believe that energy can be destroyed?
Or, does it just become another form of energy?
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When the life leaves a dead body, where does it go?
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I can't pretend to know. Buying into Christianity's (or any other organized religion's) view on what occurs after death doesn't get one any closer to actually knowing IMHO.
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01-10-2012, 11:31 PM
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Your father had great insight to the male psyche.
Everybody wants to go to heaven...but nobody wants to die to get there.
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Now there is a GREAT point painter,
All of the religious people that I have known are the biggest crybabies when they have a family member die ?
These are the same people that tell you, just how happy you should be that your loved one is now with God, but when the shoe is on the other foot, are crying like a little girl.
And when their in the hospital, they want the doctors to SAVE THEM, PLLLEEEESSSSEEE. Just what happened to; how great heaven will be, and all our troubles will be over ???
Would you call him and Idiot, Hypocrite or a Fool ?
Bill
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01-10-2012, 08:15 PM
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So where do you think your "soul" will go after passing ???? Reincarnation ? perhaps a bug !
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To answer your question, one must buy into the concept of a soul, at least the religious construct thereof. I'm not sure I do.
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01-10-2012, 08:35 PM
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To answer your question, one must buy into the concept of a soul, at least the religious construct thereof. I'm not sure I do.
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Do you believe that energy can be destroyed?
Or, does it just become another form of energy?
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01-10-2012, 09:02 PM
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Do you believe that energy can be destroyed?
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I've contemplated that at some length. The electrical impulses that carry brainwaves, neurosynapsis, memory storage and such. Is it all simply disappated as heat, is it grounded to earth or what?
When the life leaves a dead body, where does it go?
Dave
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01-11-2012, 12:43 PM
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Do you believe that energy can be destroyed?
Or, does it just become another form of energy?
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When I turn off the lamp I see no remnants of energy. Just saying...
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