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Old 09-27-2023, 08:26 AM
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This is not an immigration problem, it's a humanity problem. Mankind is not the human race, mankind is the missing like between apes and humans.

People who live in places where those in control don't give a shit if the people are starving, and will just murder them if they complain, are not going to stop trying to get into North America and Western Europe. Mankind's inhumanity to it's own will always be generating more misery, suffering, and attempts to escape it than any tough immigration laws anywhere can discourage.

And it's not so much better here in the good old USA. We typically don't face death by government, unless we have an inconvenient level of melanin in our epidermis. But we live in a country where the mega wealthy, in cahoots with all three branches of the government have, beginning in the early 1970's, queered the game to favor big business, big banks, big insurance, and big healthcare, to the extent that GenX, Millenials, GenY, and Gen Z are destined to not do as well as their parents and grandparents before them. It's still better here than anywhere else (with the exception of western Europe), but certainly not bad enough for most Americans to actually decide to get out and go somewhere better.

And it's pretty difficult, if not impossible, to go somewhere better unless you have enough money to swing it...and if you have enough money to swing it, you're probably OK staying put in what is quickly becoming a shithole. The blonde and I could do it, and we have dual Irish citizenship, so we could go live anywhere in the EU. But every time we sit down and try to figure out what it would cost, it always comes up to more than 100 large. Not to mention that we're both pushing 80 and having the endurance to do it comes into question. And then there's the exit tax on any unrealized capital gains at 23.8% for those of us who would revoke our citizenship to get out from under US federal income taxes. Motherfuckers.

Sweden, Demark, or Ireland (where she has tons of family) would be our choises.

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Old 09-27-2023, 06:12 PM
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Yes, this is a MAGA fueled shut down ordered by the Moron who is hoping to create chaos while sabotaging Biden's presidency during a fragile economic recovery. Should not be lost on us that the Saudi's reduced oil output further to help with the Moron's cause.

Ukraine and southern border are simply convenient excuses to increase the MAGAts ire.
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Old 09-27-2023, 06:30 PM
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Don't think I'll be going anywhere on our meager savings and Social Security checks, Alan. Maybe I could find a patron in the tropics who enjoys top shelf cannabis. Evidently I have a green thump or two...

Anybody in Negril or the Santa Marta's in Columbia need a couple of opinionated old hippies to sponsor? Killer sound system, will travel!
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Old 09-30-2023, 08:30 AM
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Don't think I'll be going anywhere on our meager savings and Social Security checks, Alan. Maybe I could find a patron in the tropics who enjoys top shelf cannabis. Evidently I have a green thump or two...

Anybody in Negril or the Santa Marta's in Columbia need a couple of opinionated old hippies to sponsor? Killer sound system, will travel!
Have you ever seen Terry Zwigoff's documentary "Crumb"? It's all about underground comix pioneer cartoonist Robert Crumb (and his wacky family). The focus is about Crumb and his family during the period of time just before they permanently left the country for France. It's a fabulous, and occasionally disturbing film...one of my favorites. Particularly memorable were the scenes with his brother Charles and his brother

The only way Crumb was able to afford it at the time, was by selling a half dozen of his library of sketchbooks, which he had saved throughout his career. It was a monumental trade off for him, but clearly worth it. So that's how Crumb financed it. This was back in 1991...eight years of Reagan and his insight into how the country was shifting to a corporate controlled state was what it took for him.

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Old 09-30-2023, 08:39 AM
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Old 09-30-2023, 11:07 AM
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Interesting to note that Gaetz is sending feelers to House Dems to help him oust McCarthy. This is getting to be a personal vendetta and the Dems are playing cool while not sure which way to turn.

McCarthy and Gaetz are so much alike, Gaetz will never be elected speaker and McCarthy will never be reelected speaker. McCarthy is also like a Flea Market owner, none of his wares are any good and it changes every day. A scumbag just like Gaetz, both empty suits.

Of course the Dems can help McCarthy avoid a shutdown and save his speakership if McCarthy plays ball, but chances are he will be unwilling to pay the price, stick to the deal he made with President Biden and end the impeachment charade.
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Old 09-30-2023, 01:14 PM
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GOP...spinless...

Once again the very ones with the loudest voices and finger's pointing. Blaming everyone else for their very shortcomings. Proven signs of the very weak and scared!

Shows again and again why the strongman bully type easily controls to them. The ones who talk tough usually are the total opposite have found in these many years. Cower away kissing @ss sucking up to the bully who will let them be....
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Old 09-30-2023, 01:59 PM
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House passes a CR bill to keep government functioning if Senate approves this deal. No funding for Ukraine. 91 Repugnants and one Dem voted against the bill, so look forward to McCarthy ouster beginning Monday.
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After which who will replace him? Who would want to?
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Not an problem to the MAGA addled House members. They simply want to create chaos to blame Biden administration for their ineffectiveness while obscuring Trump's legal pitfalls. It got lot worse after the bail bondsman's switch to a guilty plea.

Read earlier today that Gaetz trying to sabotage McCarthy is in preparation for a run for governorship of Florida.
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