Israel has invaded Gaza...

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

There is a time for realism. The FARC/left wing rebels have been fighting in Colombia for decades and have recently realized the game is up. FARC agreed to sue for peace when it discern that it had become irrelevant and the Colombian people had moved past its methods and followers..

It is time for Hamas to be bold...recognize Israel right to exist and embarrass
the Israelis.

It is time to try something new.

Forgive me but . I get what you're saying about tactics but Colombia's troubles have always been about politics ala the Marxists vs. the Oligarchs with the 'helpful bloody hand' of Uncle Sam.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

There is a time for realism. The FARC/left wing rebels have been fighting in Colombia for decades and have recently realized the game is up. FARC agreed to sue for peace when it discern that it had become irrelevant and the Colombian people had moved past its methods and followers..

It is time for Hamas to be bold...recognize Israel right to exist and embarrass
the Israelis.

It is time to try something new.

I agree. Give the Israelis what they want, then when the bastards continue pushing and killing, they no longer have any excuse and the world sees them for what they have become.

BULLIES.

Dave

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

So why shoot rockets, if you are in such a weak position.

Hamas leadership has nothing else going for it that will keep them in power. It's not like Hamas is doing anything to improve the quality of life for the people who have put them in power. If living in Gaza is as bad we're told it is...it's not because of Israel. It's because of worthless Palestinian leadership. So they fire a few rockets and lob a few mortar rounds into a few Israeli neighborhoods and suddenly Hamas are heroes, everybody loves them, and everybody goes happily back home to their miserable existence with smiles on their faces.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

There is nothing in Gaza that Israel needs. This is just because the rockets piss them off.

Now they will kill a bunch of people in Gaza, so the Gazians will stay pissed, and shoot some more rockets, in a while....

So what has changed since this post? (Post #5)

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

So what has changed since this post? (Post #5)

Wash, rinse and repeat.

[finnbow]

I just spoke to my son in Tel Aviv (he works with the State Dep't). He just returned from 10 days in Spain and Germany (he left for Spain before the shit hit the fan) and says that Tel Aviv is pretty quiet on the streets. Everybody is still going to work normally in Tel Aviv. Down the coast in Ashdod and Ashkelon, normal life is impacted quite a bit more. Tel Aviv is in a bubble and probably safer than any city any of us live in or near.

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I just spoke to my son in Tel Aviv (he works with the State Dep't). He just returned from 10 days in Spain and Germany (he left for Spain before the shit hit the fan) and says that Tel Aviv is pretty quiet on the streets. Everybody is still going to work normally in Tel Aviv. Down the coast in Ashdod and Ashkelon, normal life is impacted quite a bit more. Tel Aviv is in a bubble and probably safer than any city any of us live in or near.

I pray you're right.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I just spoke to my son in Tel Aviv (he works with the State Dep't). He just returned from 10 days in Spain and Germany (he left for Spain before the shit hit the fan) and says that Tel Aviv is pretty quiet on the streets. Everybody is still going to work normally in Tel Aviv. Down the coast in Ashdod and Ashkelon, normal life is impacted quite a bit more. Tel Aviv is in a bubble and probably safer than any city any of us live in or near.

If you must perpetually protect yourself from the world around you with an "Iron Bubble", or whatever those Zionist tyrants call it...........................I'm just sayin'.

I'm no fan of Hamas, but I don't have very much sympathy left for Israel either. I've had it with all of them. I'm thinking there will never be peace in the ME unless we nuke the entire region into oblivion and that includes those "settlement" building assholes in Israel.

Dave

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

If you must perpetually protect yourself from the world around you with an "Iron Bubble", or whatever those Zionist tyrants call it...........................I'm just sayin'.

I'm no fan of Hamas, but I don't have very much sympathy left for Israel either. I've had it with all of them. I'm thinking there will never be peace in the ME unless we nuke the entire region into oblivion and that includes those "settlement" building assholes in Israel.

Dave

Having traveled in the West Bank on several occasions (as recently as last November), I cannot help but have sympathy for the Palestinians, if not their tactics. I have also spoken to several of the settlers, many of whom are ultra-Zionist Americans. I've never met a more obnoxious bunch of @ssholes anywhere in my many travels.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

There is a time for realism. The FARC/left wing rebels have been fighting in Colombia for decades and have recently realized the game is up. FARC agreed to sue for peace when it discern that it had become irrelevant and the Colombian people had moved past its methods and followers..

It is time for Hamas to be bold...recognize Israel right to exist and embarrass
the Israelis.

It is time to try something new.

Sounds interesting if they can get it past the hard heads on both sides, there's nothing in the status quo for the folks caught between them.

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