ISIS Opens a 5-Star Hotel in Mosul

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

As would the imposition of Canon Law. Neither are appropriate means for governing a pluralistic society.

Regards,

D-Ray

Agreed and I earnestly believe that religion was devised by man to control people. Anyone who believes that they understand or can define a god is insane. Best to leave god as a concept IMO.

[catswiththum]

Maybe we could just bring back the selling of indulgences.

I could use a get out of hell free card.

Just in case - you never know.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

As would the imposition of Canon Law. Neither are appropriate means for governing a pluralistic society.

Regards,

D-Ray

Unfortunately, unlike the Bible, the Qur'an (and the Sunna (Muhammad's living habits)) essentially lay out a system of governance. Hence, serious Qur'an-thumpers can't abide the notion of a separation of Qur'an and state, nor the idea of democracy (the rule of the people as opposed to the rule of the book).

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

As would the imposition of Canon Law. Neither are appropriate means for governing a pluralistic society.

Regards,

D-Ray

Because theocracies of any kind are antithetical to.... are opposed to.... pluralism.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Unfortunately, unlike the Bible, the Qur'an (and the Sunna (Muhammad's living habits)) essentially lay out a system of governance. Hence, serious Qur'an-thumpers can't abide the notion of a separation of Qur'an and state.

You could say the same thing about the Talmud yet, for all its manifest faults, Israel has pretty much avoided the theocratic trap.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

You could say the same thing about the Talmud yet, for all its manifest faults, Israel has pretty much avoided the theocratic trap.

True, but Shabbat can still interfere with daily life there, no matter how secular you are. For example, Israel's trains and most buses do not run on Shabbat, nor on religious holidays. The entire country comes pretty much to a screaming halt for much of September.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

True, but Shabbata can still interfere with daily life there, no matter how secular you are. For example, Israel's trains and most buses do not run on Shabbat, nor on religious holidays. The entire country comes pretty much to a screaming halt for much of September.

There are degrees to things like that. For instance, we observe various religious (and secular) holidays and, on those, businesses close and buses don't, or run on reduced schedules.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

There are degrees to things like that. For instance, we observe various religious (and secular) holidays and, on those, businesses close and buses don't, or run on reduced schedules.

Agree, but it sucks to arrive at Ben Gurion airport on Friday night or Saturday. My son has done it several times and ends up having to spend quite a sum for a taxi to his place in Tel Aviv when trains and buses connect the two 6 days a week.

Then there's Likud's (and further right's) view that they have a divine right to all of Judea and Samaria, notwithstanding the millions of Palestinians who live there (and have for millenia). Or, if you're dumb enough to take a wrong turn into Jerusalem's Mea Shearim neighborhood during Shabbat and have your car attacked and stoned.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Then there's Likud's (and further right's) view that they have a divine right to all of Judea and Samaria, notwithstanding the millions of Palestinians who live there (and have for millenia). Or, if you're dumb enough to take a wrong turn into Jerusalem's Mea Shearim neighborhood during Shabbat and have your car attacked and stoned.

Careful there, Pat! You may end up stirring a particular ghost!

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

There are degrees to things like that. For instance, we observe various religious (and secular) holidays and, on those, businesses close and buses don't, or run on reduced schedules.

Oops! And here I was under the impression that we observe these Holydays so that the stores could have big sales events.