‘You’re not forgotten‘: how the right racialized the Ohio train disaster

[whell]

Originally Posted by Chicks

‘You’re not forgotten‘: how the right racialized the Ohio train disaster
Fox News, Trump and JD Vance claim Biden overlooked East Palestine’s plight, citing residents’ whiteness as the reason

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This is actually pretty funny coming from the left. You and your fellow travelers politicize everything. It's also a prominent strategy with the left to opportunistically blame their political opponents, particularly when the left's own policies fail.

Just a few events that come to mind that have been politicized by the left include Hurricane Katrina (for that matter, the left has politicized the damn weather), the Flint water issue, and COVID 19 to name a few. After years of politicizing the rising cost of health care - something the left has historically played a significant role - all of the cost issues that health care delivery ever had have now been institutionalized in the form of the Affordable Care Act.

Hell, it was YOU Chicklet that posted here the same crap that appeared last week in some of the lefty media outlets that blamed Trump for "slashing regulations that might have prevented" the train incident in Ohio. Then, you go find another article that chastizes the "right "for how they supposedly "racialized the Ohio train disaster". You're hilarious!

It was the left that cast the Flint water crisis in racial terms, as well as the Fed's response to Hurricane Katrina. Never mind that there were many factors that influenced the chain of events in both cases, and none of them had anything to do with race.

The problem is more likely Buttigieg's own making. Regardless of politics, the train derailing in Ohio could turn out to be a massively significant event: both from and environmental and transportation safety perspective. The head of the EPA was on-site. Pete B had no plans to do so until the public criticism got loud enough. When he was interviewed about Ohio, his responses were mechanical or tone-deaf.

[RickeyM]

Ladies & gents I present whell, the king of the Whatabout!

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

This is actually pretty funny coming from the left. You and your fellow travelers politicize everything.

The largest cable news network in the country does nothing other than politicize shit, from M&M's to Mr. Potato Head to things that aren't even happening (e.g., CRT curricula in elementary schools, FBI terrorizing innocent school parents). Indeed they're on trial at this very moment for deliberately selling Trump's election lies for profit/market share.

It was the left that cast the Flint water crisis in racial terms, as well as the Fed's response to Hurricane Katrina. Never mind that there were many factors that influenced the chain of events in both cases, and none of them had anything to do with race.

And if you think race played no role in either, you're even more ignorant than I previously thought (and that's saying something).

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

The problem is more likely Buttigieg's own making. Regardless of politics, the train derailing in Ohio could turn out to be a massively significant event: both from and environmental and transportation safety perspective. The head of the EPA was on-site. Pete B had no plans to do so until the public criticism got loud enough. When he was interviewed about Ohio, his responses were mechanical or tone-deaf.

There are over 1,000 train derailments a year. This is political only because GOP wants to bring Buttigieg a few notches for political reasons. This derailment was caused by Norfolk & Southern and they must be huge GOP donors to get this level of blame deflection.

[Chicks]

Whell is always good for a laugh! His ignorant takes on just about everything are always fun.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

There are over 1,000 train derailments a year. This is political only because GOP wants to bring Buttigieg a few notches for political reasons. This derailment was caused by Norfolk & Southern and they must be huge GOP donors to get this level of blame deflection.

The second (and related) reason is that they felt a need to get out in front of and deflect from the revelations of Trump's deregulation of the rail industry with respect to transporting hazardous cargo, particularly since it occurred in a deep red portion of a critical electoral state.

[donquixote99]

And the other other reason is they wanted to make a big thing out of some bad news to counteract all of Biden's good news lately.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

And if you think race played no role in either, you're even more ignorant than I previously thought (and that's saying something).

Other than demographics and the role the media wanted race to play in the reporting of those events, race didn't play a role in either. Race became a convenient scapegoat for blame-shifting politicians and a willing media looking for an easy narrative, but that's about it.

Oh, and if you want to play the race card in Flint's case, OK that's up to you. But can you help me understand what racial bias influenced Darnell Early - the person who lead the effort to make the decision to move from the Detroit Water system to water sourced from the Flint River - to make the decisions that he made regarding the switch?

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

There are over 1,000 train derailments a year. This is political only because GOP wants to bring Buttigieg a few notches for political reasons. This derailment was caused by Norfolk & Southern and they must be huge GOP donors to get this level of blame deflection.

You're not serious, are you? Are you actually suggesting that any of those other annual train derailments had the environmental and economic impact that last month's derailment in Ohio had?

This is political for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the apparent lack of Federal gov't's (in)ability to respond. If there's a blueprint for a coordinated Federal response to a disaster within a Federally regulated system, it's pretty absent here. Also, yes, the optics of slow to respond Federal leadership (EPA and DOT) - in terms of a show of support for the residents of Ohio whose lives and finances have been damaged by this event - is very evident. That includes Pete "I'm on personal time" Buttigieg.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Other than demographics and the role the media wanted race to play in the reporting of those events, race didn't play a role in either. Race became a convenient scapegoat for blame-shifting politicians and a willing media looking for an easy narrative, but that's about it.

Oh, and if you want to play the race card in Flint's case, OK that's up to you. But can you help me understand what racial bias influenced Darnell Early - the person who lead the effort to make the decision to move from the Detroit Water system to water sourced from the Flint River - to make the decisions that he made regarding the switch?

In both New Orleans and Flint, racism didn't cause the events (though it may have played a role in decision-making for the changes made to the Flint water system). It did impact the response to the events as a study commissioned by the state of Michigan showed in the case of Flint, as others have for the Katrina response. I won't bother trying to explain it to, because you'll just twist and turn through serial denials or otherwise obfuscate. You'd be better off figuring it out for yourself. Maybe then you believe/understand it. It will require an acknowledgment on your part of the existence of systemic racism, however, something conservatives are loath to do.

FWIW, it was a Virginia Tech (my alma mater) Civil Engineering professor, Marc Edwards, who blew the whole Flint story open. Both sons took courses with the guy and really admired and liked him.