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Old 10-14-2017, 07:03 PM
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Informal Poll:

Who is the most passive-aggressive poster now active on Political Chat?

1. Nailer
2. DonQuixote99
3. It's a tie
4. Any other answer.


(BTW, this is a 'push poll.' No answers necessary.)
Asking implies answer.
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:17 PM
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Good. You've got the push poll concept!
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:34 PM
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The US has a free market medical system that Federal and state governments participate in, to provide health care for their employees (and families) and citizens who qualify for subsidized health care...
Try as you might to claim otherwise, but health care in the US has not been a free market for a hundred years, back when you traded chickens to a doctor for his snake oil or leeches. Here's an article by a conservative of why and how free market economics do not and cannot work for health care.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisla.../#40fb2d251147

And he has just touched the surface as to why health care cannot be delivered under a true free market model - the underlying prerequisites for free market conditions in modern health care simply do not and cannot exist in this country nor any other modern first world economy.
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:42 PM
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Try as you might to claim otherwise, but health care in the US has not been a free market for a hundred years, back when you traded chickens to a doctor for his snake oil or leeches. Here's an article by a conservative of why and how free market economics do not and cannot work for health care.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisla.../#40fb2d251147

And he has just touched the surface as to why health care cannot be delivered under a true free market model - the underlying prerequisites for free market conditions in modern health care simply do not and cannot exist in this country nor any other modern first world economy.
If the article points out that cost effective health care is an oxymoron under free market economics due to the demand curve for health care being essentially inelastic, I fully concur. Inelastic demand and health care being a consumer product are primarily why our free market health care system is so expensive. For modern health care to be cost effective in a modern economy the profit motive needs to be eliminated. Socialized medicine is the answer and I don't see this happening anytime soon.
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:06 PM
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Not-for-profit works for me. Love Kaiser, hard for me to rationalize for-profit healthcare. Seems very wrong.
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:06 PM
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You want single payer? Vote straight Democratic from top to bottom. Then show loyalty by voting for whomever is the Democratic nominee, whether you like the person or not.
Do it over and over year in and year out.

Otherwise you get bad results like a Trump.
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:52 PM
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You want single payer? Vote straight Democratic from top to bottom. Then show loyalty by voting for whomever is the Democratic nominee, whether you like the person or not.
Do it over and over year in and year out.

Otherwise you get bad results like a Trump.
Ayup, true dat.
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