GOP's AHCA aka Trump-RyanCare

[nailer]

Originally Posted by merrylander

You too? Ryan panders to the wealthy and holds poor folks in disdain, I think he figures that the way to abolish poverty is to starve them all to death. Pence seems to believe in that Old Testament command 'wives submit yourselves to your husbands'. He views women as property. Makes me think of Florence's late husband (she was a widow when we met) he always said she was his proudest possession, sheesh! The minister was told that the words 'serve and obey' were not even to be thought at our wedding let alone mentioned. There is an old saying - God did not take woman from man's forehead that he should command her, neither from his foot that she should be his slave, but rather from his side that she should be close to his heart. She always was.

Biologically speaking, figuratively, female preceded male which means women came first.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Trump has even lost the lunatic fringe. Take a look at this list of RyanTrumpCare opponents and see if you can find a similar list of those in favor of it.
http://www.vox.com/2017/3/9/14869448...-health-reform

Right, 'cuz the lefty press wouldn't bother with taking an extra look around to see who might actually support it. That's just not how they roll when reporting on anything the Repubs might do. Sure as the sun will rise tomorrow you'd never find that list on Vox.

So, I'll you them, and you, out. Here are a few:

Americans for Tax Reform: http://www.atr.org/atr-statement-sup...re-repeal-bill

National Taxpayers Union: http://www.ntu.org/governmentbytes/d...alth-care-plan

US Chamber of Commerce: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-co...ce-Support.pdf

Medical Device Manufacturers Assn: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-co...on-Support.pdf

American Medical Technology Assn: http://www.advamed.org/newsroom/pres...on-legislation

Association of Mature American Citizens: https://amac.us/nations-largest-cons...macare-repeal/

American Legislative Exchange Council: https://www.alec.org/press-release/t...wer-to-states/

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Right, 'cuz the lefty press wouldn't bother with taking an extra look around to see who might actually support it. That's just not how they roll when reporting on anything the Repubs might do. Sure as the sun will rise tomorrow you'd never find that list on Vox.

So, I'll you them, and you, out. Here are a few:

Americans for Tax Reform: http://www.atr.org/atr-statement-sup...re-repeal-bill

National Taxpayers Union: http://www.ntu.org/governmentbytes/d...alth-care-plan

US Chamber of Commerce: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-co...ce-Support.pdf

Medical Device Manufacturers Assn: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-co...on-Support.pdf

American Medical Technology Assn: http://www.advamed.org/newsroom/pres...on-legislation

Association of Mature American Citizens: https://amac.us/nations-largest-cons...macare-repeal/

American Legislative Exchange Council: https://www.alec.org/press-release/t...wer-to-states/

I am willing to bet that most if not all stand to benefit monetarily from some form of tax relief for them to support this bill.

I recall reading that the Medical Device people stand to gain around $27 Billion.

[BlueStreak]

"As part of an effort to rein in soaring executive pay, the ACA decreed that health insurance companies could deduct from their taxes only $500,000 of the pay of each top executive. That’s a tighter restriction than the limit imposed on other corporations, which is $1 million per executive. The ACA closed a loophole for insurance companies enjoyed by other corporations, which could deduct the cost of stock options and other “performance-based” pay; for insurance companies, the deduction cap is $500,000 per executive, period." LA Times

What do you expect from the party of sphincter-kissing flunkies? They love to run at the heels of the rich.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Right, 'cuz the lefty press wouldn't bother with taking an extra look around to see who might actually support it. That's just not how they roll when reporting on anything the Repubs might do. Sure as the sun will rise tomorrow you'd never find that list on Vox.

So, I'll you them, and you, out. Here are a few:

Americans for Tax Reform: http://www.atr.org/atr-statement-sup...re-repeal-bill

National Taxpayers Union: http://www.ntu.org/governmentbytes/d...alth-care-plan

US Chamber of Commerce: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-co...ce-Support.pdf

Medical Device Manufacturers Assn: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-co...on-Support.pdf

American Medical Technology Assn: http://www.advamed.org/newsroom/pres...on-legislation

Association of Mature American Citizens: https://amac.us/nations-largest-cons...macare-repeal/

American Legislative Exchange Council: https://www.alec.org/press-release/t...wer-to-states/

That's a sorry ass group, all of whom whom stand to gain financially from TrumpCare. Association of Mature American Citizens??? WTF???

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by whell

Right, 'cuz the lefty press wouldn't bother with taking an extra look around to see who might actually support it. That's just not how they roll when reporting on anything the Repubs might do. Sure as the sun will rise tomorrow you'd never find that list on Vox.

So, I'll you them, and you, out. Here are a few:

Americans for Tax Reform: http://www.atr.org/atr-statement-sup...re-repeal-bill

National Taxpayers Union: http://www.ntu.org/governmentbytes/d...alth-care-plan

US Chamber of Commerce: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-co...ce-Support.pdf

Medical Device Manufacturers Assn: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-co...on-Support.pdf

American Medical Technology Assn: http://www.advamed.org/newsroom/pres...on-legislation

Association of Mature American Citizens: https://amac.us/nations-largest-cons...macare-repeal/

American Legislative Exchange Council: https://www.alec.org/press-release/t...wer-to-states/

Ah--you have four Koch-funded outfits, two manufacturer's associations who care about nothing but getting rid of the medical device tax, and the AMAC, the 'conservaticve AARP' that built their membership from nothing to over a million with strident anti-ACA activism.

Wow.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

I am willing to bet that most if not all stand to benefit monetarily from some form of tax relief for them to support this bill.

I recall reading that the Medical Device people stand to gain around $27 Billion.

You can say much the same about the groups on the list of detractors. Nothing new about that.

[whell]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Ah--you have four Koch-funded outfits, two manufacturer's associations who care about nothing but getting rid of the medical device tax, and the AMAC, the 'conservaticve AARP' that built their membership from nothing to over a million with strident anti-ACA activism.

Wow.

So what? Fin's point was that Act was not supported by groups on the "right". So my post was intended to refute that.

What, do you live in some fantasy world where you think Vox is going to compile a list of groups that would support the Act?

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

That's a sorry ass group, all of whom whom stand to gain financially from TrumpCare. Association of Mature American Citizens??? WTF???

Yeah, the US Chamber of Commerce is a "sorry ass group". Yours is a predictable, irrelevant response.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by whell

So what? Fin's point was that Act was not supported by groups on the "right". So my post was intended to refute that.

What, do you live in some fantasy world where you think Vox is going to compile a list of groups that would support the Act?

So what? What you have is a very small group of people trying to screw over the majority for vast profit. I realize in your america this is a good and proper thing to do, but anyone with a moral center would see a problem with it.