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Old 01-28-2010, 03:43 PM
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Those four probably believe it is possible to pick one up by the clean end.
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Well you kind of make my point here.


The proffered samples arent very good at the suggested activity.

Although some of them MAY be union. I don't know if you have to join the SAG to be a talking head or not.
Not SAG. My guess would be AFTRA.

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Old 01-28-2010, 04:11 PM
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Not SAG. My guess would be AFTRA.

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Had to Google that one. Learn something new every day.

Assuming they are members, arent some of these guys among the most ardent union bashers?
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:19 PM
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Had to Google that one. Learn something new every day.

Assuming they are members, arent some of these guys among the most ardent union bashers?
Oh, yeah, especially Hannity. Hannity was an unsuccessful contractor before getting into radio. Maybe he blames unions for his failure.

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Oh, yeah, especially Hannity. Hannity was an unsuccessful contractor before getting into radio. Maybe he blames unions for his failure.

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Well, aren't the unions to blame for everything, John?

Think about it. Make a mental list of all of the things they have been blamed for. It's just about everything isn't it? I'm not saying that unions, in some instances, may have gone too far and caused problems. But I've heard them get blamed for things they had absolutely nothing to do with and I'm sure you have too.

Isn't that what one would call----demonization?

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Old 01-30-2010, 03:33 AM
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Oh, yeah, especially Hannity. Hannity was an unsuccessful contractor before getting into radio. Maybe he blames unions for his failure.

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Isn't that what all failures do? Blame someone else for their failures rather than accept responsibility for their own ineptitude?

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Isn't that what all failures do? Blame someone else for their failures rather than accept responsibility for their own ineptitude?

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But if you accepted responsibility for a particular failure and moved on, you wouldn't be a failure, but one who has overcome failure.

I will blame unions for one thing. Not finding the right counter-punch to overcome the rise in employer dirty tricks that followed the Reagan Patco fiasco. While union representation has declined, the gap between worker compensation and executive compensation has widened.

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But if you accepted responsibility for a particular failure and moved on, you wouldn't be a failure, but one who has overcome failure.

I will blame unions for one thing. Not finding the right counter-punch to overcome the rise in employer dirty tricks that followed the Reagan Patco fiasco. While union representation has declined, the gap between worker compensation and executive compensation has widened.

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and lower management still the worse place for pay.
Good hard working folks struggling to better themselves and buying into upper management lies about advancement after sacrifice.
Just like voting republican.
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I will have to look around when I get time because I recall reading about many good initiatives started by the UAW when Reuther was in charge.
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